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Wednesday 26 September, 2007

Since becoming Europe Minister earlier this year, I have been struck by how much being part of the European Union impacts on our everyday lives. Everyone in the UK is affected by the EU in one way or another. For example, around 3 million British jobs are linked to our trade with other EU countries.

I've spent my first few months in the job getting to grips with a brief that ranges from Russia, to the EU Reform Treaty, to public diplomacy. I've been talking with a wide range of people from the political and business world about how they think the EU is doing.

I want to use this blog to encourage a lively public debate. There are a lot of myths about the EU, and I hope that this blog will help to make the facts clear. I want to hear your views and have a real discussion about how the EU should be delivering on the issues that matter.

Posted at 17:35 26 September 2007 by Jim Murphy | Comments[39]

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True. Today I will assist at a PhD defence and the author of the dissertation claims that the EU is undoubtfully important for the everyday life of Scotland and Wales, and the both do understand it well enough.

Posted by S on September 27, 2007 at 06:37 AM BST #

I'll tell you what - if you want "a real discussion", let's have that referendum you promised on the EU Constitution.brbrThe new Reform Treaty is 96 the same as the previous constitution, still gives the EU a legal personality and still gives away a host of crucial vetoes - most notably Justice and Home Affairs. When are we going to get our referendum?

Posted by Mark Wallace on September 27, 2007 at 10:47 AM BST #

In the last few days we have seen a public outcry for the banning of E numbers in foods, unfortunately, we can't ban them, our masters in the EU have that right!brbrBoris Johnson bemoaning the loss of the routemaster buses from London, in exchange for the elongated bendy buses ill suited to our roads. Wouldn't tell people that we cant change back, the EU wont let us, they control our buses and coaches!brbrThe intention to put scare pictures of diseased lungs etc on fag packets, is not an idea from our parliament it comes as usual from Brussels, from the EU.brbrWater metering will soon be mandatory throughout the UK for all ,because the EU, not our government have decreed it.brbrThe reason HIP's, you know the home information packs wont be scrapped, either by Liebour or the other parties, is that we can't ban them, we no longer have that right.brbrSo Im just being silly then thinking that all the above is true? brWhat about the Energy policy ie British North Sea Oil? As the EU will control our Energy, what makes you think we will get to keep our oil?brbr

Posted by lfb_uk on September 27, 2007 at 11:05 AM BST #

So when do we, the people, get a choice as to whether the EU should be in every aspect of our lives, in fact even more deeply involved? The referendum your party promised. We never wanted that, propoganda about jobs notwithstanding.brbrP.S. I see the clever wording there. 3 million jobs "linked to ... other EU countries". No suggestion that those jobs depend on our membership of the EU, let alone that they depend on the constitution, sorry treaty, being ratified. Of course that would be a lie, and you would never lie to us would you?

Posted by Richard on September 27, 2007 at 03:37 PM BST #

At last a minister who admits that the EU controls every aspect of our lives and that Westminster is no longer our government and is virtually powerless. maybe this government minister will therefore also admit that this makes him just a useful puppet of the Brussels regime.brWhat we need is a government in Westminster not a puppet theatre.brThe LibLabCon party have been lying to us sine the 1960s so one minister being picky with words and trying not to lie after 40 years of lying governments is rather tarsnparent and pointless. Give us a vote and let us decide if we want to part of a country called EU or just part of a trading block called Common Market which is what we were told we were joining when we last voted over 30 years ago.

Posted by David on September 28, 2007 at 10:20 AM BST #

You say "around 3 million British jobs are linked to our trade with other EU countries" and I have no reason not to believe you. brbrBut this is not relevant to the debate surrounding our membership of the EU. brbrFirst, were we to pursue a more modern, flexible and democratic relationship with the EU than the rigid link we have today, it's hardly likely Germany would immediately stop sending us BMWs or France refuse to sell us their cheeses. brbrTrade would not cease, so that deliberately scary headline number of jobs would not be lost.brbrIn any case, dozens of countries have free trade agreements with the EU without having to be members of the 1950s-style political / integrationist structure or make annual multi-billion pound payments into the EU budget. brbrIf Mexico can have such a relationship with the EU - one that protects their democracy but achieves the trade benefits - why can't we? br

Posted by Stuart Coster on September 28, 2007 at 12:09 PM BST #

I simply can not believe some the comments that have been made by people. It truly beggers belief that people can be so isolationist and so dramtic in their postings on Europe.brbrThe Minister rightly suggests that the EU does impact on our everyday lives, but this does not have to be in a negative way. Clean beaches, better air quality, stronger worker protection and paid holidays, safer food, better consumer protection, more rights for when we fly, safer childrens toys, cheaper mobile phone roaming costs, increased trade, and dare I say it...peace in Europe for over 60 years!

Posted by Jonathan Millins on September 28, 2007 at 01:17 PM BST #

Let's get the debate started by allowing the people of this country to make their feelings known about the latest EU treaty in a referendum.

Posted by Shug Niggurath on September 28, 2007 at 02:53 PM BST #

If we were just part of the European Economic Area as is Norway, Iceland etc we would have single market rules imposed upon us without having any say in these rules a "fax democracy". And not being part of any single market agreement would be extremely detrimental to our economy. So leave Jim alone!

Posted by Dave on September 28, 2007 at 05:04 PM BST #

"Safer children's toys", Jonathan Millins? That's a laugh. brbrThe easily-faked and improperly policed 'CE' safety mark is to blame for the recent lead-paint-on-toys fiasco. They'd have been less likely to get to our shelves if we were still allowed to test toys on import.brbrWhat's more, my mobile phone bill has gone up as operators recoup former roaming profits in other ways. And we're told the 'cheap flights' that you thank Brussels for are killing our planet.brbrFormer French PM Dominique de Villepin disagrees with you about the EU increasing trade. His think tank recently revealed there has been no discernable leap in trade since the Single European Act or advent of the euro. brbrPeace depends on effective democracy, not shiny glass buildings in Brussels. Conflict doesn't just happen between nations but can spark between a disenfranchised people and a remote, arrogant ruling elite. brbrTo my view, in eroding Europe's responsive national democracies, the continuing march of EU centralisation is making instability in Europe more likely in the future, not less.brbrAnd how many hundreds of billions have been paid for the Eurocracy to come up with the middle class luxuries you cite, while billions of people across the world live in poverty? Your list of 'benefits' is, like the EU, waste and decadence writ large.brbrEurope doesn't need the EU to work together on the issues that affect us all. I'm glad this blog exists so we will at last all be able to get our facts straight.br

Posted by Mike Hanlon on September 28, 2007 at 05:56 PM BST #

you say, "There are a lot of myths about the EU, and I hope that this blog will help to make the facts clear."brbrThat is because unaccountability and a lack of democracy lies at the heart of EU institutions. Please can you tell us how you are going to reform the EU for the better? And a referendum as promised would be a welcome way of encouraging a lively public debate.

Posted by Praguetory on September 29, 2007 at 08:41 AM BST #

Thank you very much for surrendering hard won british independence to a bunch of unelected political failures kinnock et al. Europeans can fish in our waters where we can't tell us who we can and cannot deport. I am certainly feeling that it is time to emmigrate, so that will be another wage earning family gone to be replaced by some minimum wage immigrants who even labour think tanks now confirm a drga on the economy.brbrthanks you and good night

Posted by jay on September 30, 2007 at 07:03 PM BST #

I would be interested to know your thoughts on the change of rules concerning health cover for British people permanently resident in France. The French authorities have just announced that "early retired" brpeople already resident in France will no longer be covered by the French health service from the end of the year for some and by the end of March 2008 for others. This is despite the fact that these people are legally resident in France, are paying taxes, making a contribution of 8 of their income to the health service and are paying a top-up private health insurance, as is required here. Health cover will be withdrawn and people will have to seek 100 private insurance.People brwith existing medical conditions will find it very difficult to get cover and for some people with serious illnesses, private insurance will be impossible to find.This is causing serious concern to many people, not least because of the sudden nature of the announcement and brthe lack of time to make alternative arrangements for those affected.The first rumours of this only appeared at the beginning of September and the new arrangements started on October 1st. The announcement refers only to British residents in France.

Posted by Colin on October 02, 2007 at 04:33 PM BST #

I have to concour with the posters before me, you want a "lively public debate" then fine lets debate it and then vote on it in the referendum that your Government promised us we could have.brbrNo waffling, no spin, no half truths, no answering the question without actually answering the question.brbrDebate, vote, move on. Simple.

Posted by Nic Saint on October 03, 2007 at 12:50 PM BST #

I am amazed at the lack of coverage of the emerging problem which Colin refers to above - re the withdrawal of our right to contribute to and receive protection from, the state healthcare system in France - and the lack of representation from our government we still vote for you, you know, on our behalf. Is the minister even aware that people are at this very moment, facing the loss of their homes, and the life they have worked for, simply because they have chronic illnesses which private insurance companies will not cover? We are no longer citizens of Europe, we are becomming stateless - certainly in terms of healthcare. We are being called "parasites" by the government of country we live in, while that of the nation of our birth passes us off as unworthy of attention since we left British shores. Who will stand up for us if not the Europe we embrace?

Posted by Deborah Dudley on October 03, 2007 at 03:06 PM BST #

I thought a debate was two sied with free flow of information. Lets see... the Government signed up to the treaty with 48 hours notice as you admitted. What kind of Government is this.brbrNow you obviuolsy know all the details of what is in the Treaty.. but have somehow neglected to let us - the voters - have any summary of what is in it. But of course YOU know as YOU agreed it.brbrSo you are going to have a LIVELY DEBATE with you knowing everything and giving us the mushroom treatment.brbrYeah right.brbrLies, spin and hypocrisy.brbrI tell you about a debate. Give us the details and we'll discuss it on this forum... and then we'll vote on it.brbrOh I forgot.. No referendumbrbrSo a lively debate.brWe don't know what's in it.brAnd even if we did, we could not vote on it.brbrWhat knid of cretins do you think we are? Cos you are treating us like that.brbrApolgies for my intemerance. But....

Posted by Madasafish on October 03, 2007 at 04:00 PM BST #

What a difference 3 years makes. Following the Greek Cypriot SabotagedbrAnnan Plan referendum The European Councils issued statement on 26 Aprilbr2004 stated its determination to put an end to the isolation of thebrTurkish Cypriot community and to facilitate the reunification of Cyprus bybrencouraging the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot communityandbrfor the Commission to bring forward comprehensive proposals to this end.brAfter 3 years the EU has failed to end a single embargo but is abrcollaborator to the ongoing inhumane isolation of Turkish Cypriots leavingbr250,000 of the EUs newest citizens to live under apartheid conditionsbrbrBritain is one of three original Guarantor Powers in Cyprus and has abrspecial responsibility to treat the two sides equally and to protect thebrbalance of power created in 1960. It has failed miserably again Today thebrBritish Government treats the Greek Cypriot side as the sole proprietor ofbrthe whole island, while condemning the Turkish Cypriots to life as anbrexcluded community without access to their basic human rights. This is abrcompletely unacceptable.brbrAnd when the UK embarks on another Boys Own military expedition to bombbranother Muslim country back 65 years and starts to ask why Muslims arebrsaying that these are wars against Muslims and Islam let them ponder on thebrwords Kashmir, Palestine, Northern Cyprus, Iraq and Chechnya. Then whenbrMuslims start to mobilise politically against the Labour Party and thebrfascists start popping up encroaching on Labour territory it will, of course,brall be down to Muslims not being "Good British Citizens"brbrWhat is the position of the British Government on the unacceptable treatment of the people of Northern Cyprus ? br

Posted by Safdar Hussain on October 03, 2007 at 04:22 PM BST #

How dare you suggest that you want to encourage a lively public debate? This government wants nothing less than a public debate, otherwise it would give us the option to decide for ourselves as promised in the 2005 manifesto that our wondrous leader claims to be governing from. Membership of the EU and its all-pervading tentacles of unnecessary government and bureaucracy is a totally seperate issue to free trade and open markets. Personally I believe that we would not suffer one iota if we were to leave the EU as it stands and remain free trade partners. Even if our trade did suffer and Europe could not afford to block us out on that front, the losses would be truly minimal in comparison to the money saved on running the EU government, the CAP and innumerable other wastes of money that we have been subjected to.brbrI also note that having asked for a lively debate, you have yet to make a reply yourself. As ever with the Labour government, if you do not hear what you want to, you simply ignore it. Scandalous.

Posted by George Brown on October 03, 2007 at 09:12 PM BST #

You said "There are a lot of myths about the EU, and I hope that this blog will help to make the facts clear"brbrSo far this blog has made nothing clear.brbrIn fact it has said absolutely NOTHING about the EC.brbrWe have said much more and complained vociferously about a number of items...brbrSo it is now over a week since you posted your first message.brbrHow about answering a few points and enlightening us?brbrOr is this a blog written for show with no substance? I hope not.

Posted by Madasafish on October 04, 2007 at 11:35 AM BST #

I have seen a couple of comments on this subject ie the banishing of Brits from the French Health service. To bring it down to reality. I live in France, I have just been diagnosed with Cancer. My treatment is very likely to go beyond the current deadline of 31/3/2008 when I will not be eligible for the French system and clearly will not be able to arrange private insurance. The current line is from 1/4/2008 I must pay from my own resources???? If I am in hospital on 1/4/2008 will they eject me. As if cancer was not enough. What is the government doing about it. Decisions are being made as I write

Posted by Brian on October 04, 2007 at 01:17 PM BST #

I agree with Colin and Deborah Dudley about the Health issue. The French have given no publicity to this change yet they were required to do so in 2004. A person whose E106 is expiring does not get the extension to March 2008 to sort something out yet others do. This is discriminatory and inequitable. You already have cancer patients whose care has stopped because their entitlement has expired and they have only just been told they can't get into the French system without insurance. The UK Govt could extend all E106s until end of March next year as an interim measure. In addition, these changes in the health rules are part of the EU Directive 2004/38EC which sets out the new rules for residence - is it lawful to apply new changes in residence qualification rules to those already resident? I don't think so! Why are we allowing this to go unchallenged? What are we doing for those people who are left without any help for their chronic conditions. Humanitarian grounds alone should be enough for us to do something NOW!

Posted by Frank on October 04, 2007 at 01:24 PM BST #

I would like to endorse the previous comments about the effects of the recent changes to healthcare regulations in France have had on the British community in France. The French now require all British nationals below retirement age, who are not employed, to take out private medical insurance to cover the full cost of treatment. Moreover, this law has been introduced retrospectively so that those already resident under the existing rules are having their rights revoked. This means that these people are suddenly stateless in respect of healthcare since neither the British or the French authorities help. The problen is particulalry acute for those people about to be ejected from the French system who have developed serious or chronic illnesses since their arrival in France which preclude them obtaining private insurance. To these must be added those who have, or develop, conditions which would make private insurance prohibitively expensive. If left unaddressed, this issue could lead to the effective deportation of UK citizens on the grounds of health. What price free movement and residence within Europe for EU citizens now? What is the UK government doing about this issue?

Posted by Ian Tench on October 04, 2007 at 02:49 PM BST #

"Everyone in the UK is affected by the EU in one way or another". Too right we are. Your government has succeeded in hiding the fact that the majority of legislative enactments are solely due to the EU's precedence over Westminster in making and enacting policy.brWe need to debate the biggest myth of all which is that we would be worse off out of Europe than in it. It would make little or no difference at all except that it would save us billions of wasted pounds each year.brAnd of course, finally, we need the national debate culminating in the referendum promised in your 2005 manifesto.

Posted by keny macbeth on October 04, 2007 at 03:41 PM BST #

Further to the posts regarding to the changes in France which in effect ejects British residents in from the French healthcare system. This is a result of EU legislation that was formulated in 2004. I moved to France in 2006, why was I not informed at that time that these changes were in the pipeline at least then I could have made a decision about moving to France based on correct information. This is why it is so unjust to existing residents.

Posted by Glyn Davies on October 04, 2007 at 05:39 PM BST #

What if anything, does the UK Government propose to do about the RETROSPECTIVE changes to health cover in France ? Many UK Nationals have emigrated to France and have been making the required contributions to the French Health system. The French Government have now made changes to how eligibility is determined and many established residents will now find themselves without cover. It would be one thing to demand private health cover for those to yet make the move to France, but quite another to impose this on people ALREADY RESIDENT IN FRANCE AND AFFILIATED TO THE FRENCH HEALTH SYSTEM;brHow can this RETROSPECTIVE legislation be fair and legal in an integrated Europe,?

Posted by Sarah on October 04, 2007 at 07:07 PM BST #

with regards to the new rules on French Healthcare, I live in France and have done since 2003 I find it hard to understand how this new legislation that was formulated in 2004 after I arrived in France can be applied retrospectively to people who are already here especially if they arrived BEFORE 2004..........is this legal - it makes you wonder what will happen next

Posted by sonny on October 05, 2007 at 06:10 PM BST #

Could Jim Murphy, as Minister for Europe, please put a reply on his own blog, to the many who have written comments here about the French govt's proposals for retrospective changes to the French health service. Many of us have written to him individually and not received a reply yet. We would be heartened to hear directly from him on this blog that he is aware of our concerns, tackling this issue and making some attmept on our behalf to argue that the changes should not be retrospective. Some seriously ill people are very worried indeed that they will not have the funds to pay for their own treatment after their E106 runs out at end of Dec 2007 and others, already having been accepted as resident in France and paying into the French health service, have been told their cover stops on 31st March 2008.

Posted by Julie on October 06, 2007 at 08:06 AM BST #

Mr Murphy, may I ask you why, in my poor English, and from your point of view, the Uk government doesn't want the Charter of fundamental rights to be integrated in the new treaty? What's wrong with it? Considering both its very noble principles and those who have leaded the UK to become a very efficient democracy, why shouldn't it be included in the treaty? It doesn't even formally create some new rights that do not yet exist, or give some new responsibilities to the Union. So what's the point? Is it more a question of not provoking the susceptibility of the UK public opinion?brBest regards,brbrTremeur Denigot

Posted by Tremeur Denigot on October 07, 2007 at 04:40 PM BST #

Minister of State Murphy, the problem is that most British people don't have an idea what EU does. How can we change that??brbrI mean if you ask Brit on streets of London do you know what EU does, most would say NObrbrbrMr. Mohamud Ali Madarbrbr

Posted by Mohamud Ali Madar on October 08, 2007 at 12:52 PM BST #

Dear Jim,brbrMohamud Ali Madar wrote: "the problem is that most British people don't have an idea what EU does". I agree - and the same could be said for most people in the EU. "How can we change that?" asks Mr Madar. Excellent question! Margot Wallström European Commissioner for communication policy has been asking that question insistently for the past couple of years, and arguing for a concerted effort by governments and EU bodies to inform the public, to exlain the issues and to get a truly informed debate going. Do you, as UK Minister for Europe, support this idea? If so, how and when will the UK government get cracking on launching a true UK-wide debate on what the EU is for and whether the UK benefits from being in it? In that debate, I hope the full range of views will be heard. Please allow eurosceptics to make their case forcefully - but please also give UK citizens the opportunity to hear from and question the European Commission. Thanks.br brbrbrbr

Posted by David Monkcom on October 09, 2007 at 08:54 AM BST #

Please explain why the EC Treaty is different from the Constitution.brYou say it is.brThe The European scrutiny committee - headed by and with a majority of Labour MPs - says it is no different.brPlease explain...as your blog promises.

Posted by Madasafish on October 09, 2007 at 12:50 PM BST #

OK, lets have a HUGE conversation about why the Labour Party lied about holding a referendum on a European Constitution. Only those who wilfully deny it believe that the "new" version is any different to the "old" one, sobrbr1. Let us know why you think it is OK for the Labour Party to lie to the public.brbr2. Why you can't be bothered to answer anyone here.

Posted by Jeremy Poynton on October 09, 2007 at 04:12 PM BST #

After reading alot of the previous comments i can understand why he doesnt respond to these posts. Its clearly a very unpopular job being the responsible minister for Europe. brbrLabour promised a referendum on "The Constitution".. It is clearly not constitution anymore and if you read the document you can see that is the case. I find it amusing so many people are shocked that a government hasnt lived up to a manifesto commitment.. Is this the first time in history thats happened?brbrThere is not going to be a referendum on the treaty because it would be a huge no vote. Not because of the treaty, but because it would be a protest vote against the EU. brbrThere is no point voting on a minor issue such as this treaty, as people will read "The Sun" and vote the way it tells them... Hell it got labour elected a few times and got support for the Iraq war.brbrWe may as well have a full debate on the European Union and in 6 months time have a vote on staying in or leaving it. All main political parties and the majority of the country would back the Union. Eurosceptics woulld be silenced for along time.

Posted by SimonSays on October 15, 2007 at 10:24 PM BST #

Schengen Agreement: I am married to a Vietnamese national with UK ILR. It is easy for me to get a visa to travel to Vietnam, but we cannot go to anywhere in Europe e.g. Dublin or Paris without significant effort and forward planning to get a visa for my wife, which can only be for a short duration specific purpose. As far as Europe is concerned, we are virtual prisoners in the UK. I am otherwise strongly in favour of our EU membership but I am baffled by the UK failure to be a party to the Schengen Agreement on cross-border formalities.

Posted by Edgar Blazier on October 16, 2007 at 02:25 PM BST #

The Labour Party promised a referendum in its election manifesto. The Government of which you are now a member is proposing to resile on that promise. Why? That is the most interesting question But that apart, it is simply a dishonest way of behaving.brThe so-called red lines have not always worked in the past becuase, it seems, we have a Court of Justice that is constitutionally a part of the EU and not independent and seems to consider that its remit is to expand the powers of the EU wherever there is a decision to be made.brAre you willing to stake your pension on the red lines holding in the future against determined attack? I bet not!brIt may make you and the Prime Minister unpopular with the leaders in the EU, but you must hold a referendum on whether this country wants this 'Treaty'.

Posted by Alan Williams on October 16, 2007 at 03:03 PM BST #

Perhaps you are a more honest man than you appear and you are answering each individual e-mail directly to the posters. I cannot believe you would do otherwise, since you stated in your blog that you wanted to have a lively debate and listen to our views. Give me the evidence by e-mail and I will come back with my views on your government's performance over the past ten years. Will all the other bloggers come back and answer one question - Have you had a response from Jim Murphy? Answer Yes or No. Let's have a two sided debate with answers to questions.

Posted by Jim Hendry on October 17, 2007 at 09:27 PM BST #

I'm still waiting for a reply....

Posted by Madasafish on October 18, 2007 at 11:57 AM BST #

This blog has the following in the preamble:"I want to use this blog to encourage a lively public debate. There are a lot of myths about the EU, and I hope that this blog will help to make the facts clear."brbrSince no-one has replied and there has been no debate.. in a month -brI assume that the myths about the EC are correct:brvizbrUndemocraticbrdecisions made without consultationbrpromises made and then broken..brbrSo far this blog proves all the above.brbrOwn goal?

Posted by Madasafish on October 24, 2007 at 09:24 AM BST #

Is anyone aware of the plight of children in bulgera in instutitionlized care?brbri saw this programe today a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/bulgarias-children.shtml"http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/bulgarias-children.shtml/abrbrGuys and Girls this aint Kansas no more.....brbrWe in england have a standard for care, the NHS is the 4th biggest imployer in the world with over 1.4m workers, we have specialist schools for children blind and deaf. check out whats happening in these countries with there children who suffer like this. We have a obligation to put our foot down and say to romania & bulgera to sort this out. If your in the EU then you have to have a STANDARD, YES STANDARD, The Social Care Home in question - where 75 unwanted children are growing up - is the main employer in the small village of Mogilino. Few of the children can talk, not necessarily because they are unable but rather because no one has ever taught them how. Abandoned into the hands of the staff at Mogilino these children inhabit a bleak uncaring world, so devoid of normal everyday stimulus that many have taken to rocking slowly and constantly in their chairs just for something to do.brbrBulgaria has more institutionalised mentally and physically disabled children than anywhere else in Europe. This film is a heart-rending and eye-opening look into the life of one such institution. brbrFolks im proud of my countrie and i think unification is the way forward both regionally and globally, We have to expand our standards to help and put pressure on all countrys to look after there people. You know Englands a gem in the grown of Europe and i know that if anyone here is to see whats goin on in these countries you would all be sick at how this has gone on.brbrChange is easy, A well writen letter and a phone call can change thingsbrbri hope u all join me in changing the bad to goodbrbrbrbr

Jim Murphy

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