Matt Baugh

Ambassador to Somalia

17th January 2012 Nairobi, Kenya

London Conference on Somalia: Building Momentum

So far, we’ve had an overwhelmingly positive reaction to the British Prime Minister’s announcement to host a Conference on Somalia in London next month. After 20 years of sliding backwards, it’s clear – and welcomed by many – that Somalia needs a step-change in effort, both from the international community, but also Somalia’s political leaders.

This is what the London Conference is about – bringing together in London senior representatives from over 40 governments, multilateral organisations and Somali authorities to agree how the international community can step-up its efforts to help tackle the root causes and effects of the problems in Somalia.

Twenty years of civil war in Somalia have had a dramatic effect on Somalis. Somalia is the most affected by the drought in the Horn of Africa – the UK estimates that 50,000 to 100,000 people may have died in Somalia, half of them children, since famine was declared almost six months ago. The UN estimates that 250,000 Somalis remain at risk and almost 2.5 million Somalis are displaced in the country and across the region. And if that wasn’t reason enough to act, an entire generation of children – Somalia’s future – has grown up with guns, not school books. Somalia is one of the worst countries in the world to be a woman. And while some Somalis are thriving financially, not enough is being invested in Somalia’s future.

And it’s clear from my meetings with many Somalis, that the people of Somalia want change. So the London Conference is about making the most of the opportunities in front of us:

  • The opportunity to support a more inclusive and representative political process when the Transitional Period ends in August 2012;
  • The opportunity to help people return to Mogadishu and rebuild their lives in that city;
  • The opportunity to take further action against Al Shabaab and piracy;
  • The opportunity to reinforce the relative stability in areas of Somalia, such as Somaliland and Puntland and in the south.

To realise these opportunities we need more effective international and Somali leadership and a more coordinated approach focused on actions. The UK aims to act as a catalyst for this new approach.

Together with colleagues in London and in British Missions around the world, we continue to consult widely with our Somali and international partners. These consultations will continue over the next weeks.

From these early discussions, there’s growing agreement on a series of measures to support Somalia, including: providing sustainable funding for AMISOM; support for Somali security and justice sectors; agreement to what should succeed the transitional institutions in August 2012; a package of support to Somalia’s regions; a renewed commitment to collectively tackle the terrorist threat emanating from Somalia; breaking the piracy business model; a renewed commitment to tackling Somalia’s humanitarian crisis; and improved international handling of Somalia issues.

So, the momentum towards the Conference is building. We’re realistic enough to know these are complex issues that will not be solved overnight. We will need to build on and support the work of the UN, AU, NGOs and the vital role of civil society in Somali and we will require sustained political commitment and concrete action, including from Somalia’s political leaders. But what’s agreed in London will be an important step.

Please let me know what you think. Whether you agree or disagree with this emerging agenda – your comments are always welcome, either below or on Twitter using #LDNSomalia.

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1,082 comments on “London Conference on Somalia: Building Momentum

  1. Matt,

    We’re always so thankful for the efforts of the Great Britain and for the chance of the upcoming conference. The agendas are also fantastic. we lookforward to a good news from there eventhough we know that it wont be a quick solution for the long running conflicts in Somalia. We had seen several reconciliation conference held in Africa and Asia for the Somali politicians, while we all thought that was the beginning of the end to the crises but it turned out to be more worse and only divided politicians further. As far as i can remember this is the first time Britain hosts such a conference in Britain that will bring together most influential Somalis. I would strongly urge that involving parties of the conference pursue any result that comes out of the conference, not to turn their back against the chance. the good news is that after a bitter suffer the Somalis inside Somali and those living abroad are committed now and they want peace and government no matter how and where it comes from.

    1. Dear matt

      Please do not be misled by some of the misinformed comments from what I think are young people with little understanding of the real political situation in Somalia. Many people have mentioned Somaliland and presented various arguments. I believe the question of Somaliland is very important to the stability of Somalia but only if you have an insight understanding of the region can you make anything that is even close to a solution. The territory formerly known as Somaliland consists of 6 regions it’s also inhabited by 4 major tribes and many smaller ones. During the days of British influence each tribe had their own agreement with the British, Somaliland was never colony neither was it a country it was protectorate and its official name was “The Somaliland protectorate” the only country that was recognised or anticipated before 1960 was Somalia that is why in 1960 Britain withdrew from Somaliland to allow for the creation of independent Somalia 3 days later and the fact that both Italy and Britain withdrew from Somalia at the same time was no accident this issues was agreed on years ago and planned with UN involvement from the early 1950’s. I am only saying this because a lot people who have no understanding of these facts throw around various claims about how Somaliland used to be a country; Somaliland was never a country and it was never anticipated to be one. But all that doesn’t even matter because if you understand the tribal structure of the region you will know for sure that a country called Somaliland is not possible anyway you look at it. Understanding the tribal structure is very important because in Somalia the tribe is the community, the political party and the power on the ground. In 1991 a few individuals consisting mostly of the former SNM insurgent group from one of the tribes in Somaliland the Isaq and a few individuals from the others declared independence from Somalia and claimed that Somaliland is a new country. All the other tribes who are the majority of the population of the region along with all the tribes of Somalia are aggressively opposed to this one tribe agenda. Therefore the so called Somaliland and its claimed independence is just another problem in a long list of tribal quarrels in Somalia and should be treated with equal light as with all the other problems in south central Somalia. Three autonomous regions that will come under the new federal government are already declared by other tribes within the territory that Somaliland claims Maakhir, Khaatumo and Awdal states, so as you can see this entity called Somaliland that so many people are almost spamming you with is just another tribal problem in Somalia. The leader of Awdal state is just on a visit to Mogadishu in talks with the Somali government. I think this conference should make sure that the SNM militia and its leaders understands that their insistence on independence is not possible and the only result from it will be another violent war that devastates the region, which the conference should aim to prevent from happening and make it clear to the militia.. It is also very important to understand that not all the Isaq people support this separatist agenda and that the majority of the common people do not care about the SNM separatist movement, they just want peace and development in their country. However the lack of government in Somalia for the last 20 years meant that the SNM militia was controlling people’s opinions, they have actively supressed people who expressed nationalist ideas; this week alone they have imprisoned more than 20 journalists in Hargaisa for what they called “pro-Somalia news” and this has been the routine for the past 2 decades. The population in the cities that the SNM controls are not free to state their opinions and are in fact prisoners in their country living in extreme fear; many have been killed or tortured just for speaking out. When the united nations or other international community personal visits the region they are only allowed to visit a few pretty neighbourhoods in the city where everything is staged to look like it’s going all too well and that everyone agrees with the militia but this picture is far from the truth.

      1. Hi Abdi and Matt,don’t you get it,Awdal State was made here in Ottawa,Canada by a friends who were shewing khat anf it does not represent anybody and Abdi stop all this none sense picture about Somaliland.Somaliand is indeniable Country in the Horn of Africa.
        So for better or worse,Somalialnd should be recognise also i suggest for the British government ,you know Scotland is looking for a country so Somaliland already lost in 1960 but now we don’t miss it.So please matt inform your leader that we pay a big price and lot people blood for this country.

        1. Ali im afraid thats not corrrect. Abdi is right. the So called Somaliland was never a country and Britain knows about that. It seems that you aren’t talking to someone who knows you better but Britain does. My suspicion is that this conference will not be inclusive if Britain don’t invite nationalist states in Northern Somalia such as AWDAL STATE, and KHAATUMO STATE OF Somalia. I am not sure if Britain is aware of but most Somalis believe that Britain is actively seeking or gathering support for the SNM militia group who control Hargeisa to gain independence. Most Somalis would like to see Britain doing the other way round meaning encouraging Somalis to come together not supporting one of the functions.

          1. We need to know our gools , and go forward to somali reconciliation in my few , we want a good goverment to all somali people from north to south, no somaliland ,awdal state, puntland, hiiran land and others , somalia is somalis only .

            I am telling you if somaliland come to the conference its good for somalis ,even we support if somaliland take a capitalcity of somalia and president of somalia next year ….

          2. Mat and Mohamed

            I am very disappointed to see your opinion. I don’t no your background but you are here to argue for the sake of argument. It is fact that Somaliland is stable and progressing both politically and economicly and it is the only place any somalian or foreigner can feel safe. A sensible mind will look a ways to capitalise that for the greater goodness of the region.

            Somaliland is a good example for promoting peace and stability and putting the majority interest first.

            I dont see how British will bring remedy to the problem of Somali people since Britain was the one behind this division in the first place and still doing so when it has it own interest, as we have recently witnessed the independence of South Sudan.

            It is the interest of the Somali people that Somaliland remains independent State, recognised or not and and not change it’s political course as long as Somalia remains as it is now.

            IF IT IS WORKING LEAVE IT AS IT IS (SIMPLE)

          3. Hi everyone

            There is no need to argue about our internal affairs, infact Britain understands all somali parties. let us face the main and deep rooted problem in southern somalia. Britain or any other third party will not solve our problem, our elders can solve this problem only if we give them a chance and I can give you a good example, Somaliland was established in Burao in 1991. lets us ask ourselves who solved their problem, obviously, the elders and tribe leaders, they sat under a tree and dsicussed their internal problems and created reconciliation between the tribes, so they can live peacefully together. secondly they held another conference in Borama (Awdal) in 1993, which was also succesful.

            We can reach and enjoy prosperity, ONLY if we trust Almighty Allah (SW)

        2. Shame on you to describe the Awdallites as such. Don’t you know Awdal community is the most educated people in somalia. Awdallites are respectable people and are the heart of somali civilization. It is SNM (Somalida Neceb Midnimada), Somalis that hate unity, who announced this dream of somaliland while chewing Qat and have been in this euphoria for the last 20 years. There is no what is called somaliland. Awdal state is part of somalia, and is working fully to bring the unity back. We, awdal community are committed to do so. The dream is over and the community have woken up. Long live somalia..

          1. I am a Somalilander living in the UK since 1988. Prior to this we lived in Mogadishu where we had to leave due to the war. I am Isaaq and Can tell you that whilst Isaaq as well as all the tribes in Somalilander did wish for a Union they found it was made possible due to the South Somalis possesive nature over their respective terrorties. We also found that many of the Somalis cannot accept each other especially in the South. Therefore, most Isaaq only lived in the capital as second class citizens and they found it very difficult to be represented equally. Most of my family that still had homes in hargeysa and Berbera in 1988 where subjecated to horrific violence due to our city folk wanting to be equally represented. We don’t want this to happen again. We can all talk about clans or tribes but we cannot ignore the fact that all that Isaaq people want is peace for thier folk in their country. We feel a lot of the misinformation being represented about this issue needs to be clarified. Their has been tribes in Somaliland who have found it easier to belong but many others haven’t and so they where able to come togther again to rebuild their lives whilst the rest of the North East and South Somalis where still struglling.We were able to bring peace and progress despite the few skurmishes we have always supported democracy but it seems a few are still unable to see the injustice to us and so lack empathy. It is this which will make Isaaq as well as other tribes in SOmaliland feel apprehensive and relectunt to trust a union. Finally the main contributor to the difference in ideology is because SOmaliland and SOmalia have different geographical needs as well as differences in exposure to the external eliminates that formed their current positions. This makes the gulf between them apparent. Their past history has paved the way for a long rooted problem. It is your empathy and consideration to many this required who just cannot see a road to union not at this time.

        3. Thats your assumption Ali wake up nothing can stop peoples will not even the terrorist SNM can do that i think you are lost its 21st century and divide and rule policy is over Somali will remain ONE country and every regoin will have its piece of cake from the central Government.If you have no idea what federalism is then read and educate yourself.

      2. the denial and the manipulation in your comment is what caused the current situation of somalia, so please stop that. Somaliland has showed the world that they are a Country and met all the requirements to be a country, democracy, independency and constant development. and you saying that the Somaliland government is a militia is disgrace and disgusting. even if you do not like/agree the fact that they want separation you can deny what they did for the region and the progress they made to the situation of Somalia.

        another thing i would like to say is the majority of the people of Somaliland want the separation and do not want to be part of somalia and being united with somalia anymore. there minority that live in abroad want the unity which does not know the situation and has not experienced. the people that live in the region want the peace and stability that the somaliland provides and do not want to be part of a war zone which can not secure their own safety. Somalilanders built their country believing that they are nation and survived for two decades in fact developed and built nothing from something and a developing country.

        people like you is what caused the hatred and the war in Somali and stop misleading people and giving out false history just because you hate a certain tribe.

        1. First of all, ,may I thank the government of Great Britain for coming up with such a brilliant initiative for the Somali people all around the world. Secondly, May I remind the honourable lady, when you only study about the history of somalia, you will come to a wider comprehensive understanding of the current situation dilemma.I am not quite sure if you heard about this say before; “Don’t ever throw rocks if you live in a glass house”. The tribal based SNM state of Somaliland as I view it, is an oppressive, hatred preacher, hatred planter, History twister, and prejudice enforcing arrogant monster. If you may allow me to shed a light on the democracy you are claiming, in the regions of SOOL,SANAAG and Cayn, may i ask you how many of the residents of those regions have participated and voted to fulfil your good omen of Somaliland’s example of democracy, excluding the recent current government “Alleged” voting campaign participation. It’s very tiny small percentage, and I can never recall in memory of that happening from 1991-2010. Can you tell me, why is the SNM based government, the pinnacle state of democracy according to your opinion, is cracking down journalists who only portrayed the other side of the story and shelling innocent civilians constantly? Mere civilians who are getting shelled and bombarded day in and day out in Buhoodle even at this minute as I type to you right now. Can you tell me why is the SNM government, killed more 12 demonstrators in the city of LAASANOOD last week? On the contrary, ISAAQ people are being allowed to demonstrate in Hargeisa and Barbara in supportive to their own tribal based government. We are recording all of these incidents and very soon SNM will be exposed in an international scale.

          Can we say they are criminals only because they believe in “ALL SOMALIA” and the revitalising process of GREATER, FAIRER STRONGER,BONDED SOMALIA. A somalia of its all tribes, cultures, dialects, diversity and justice. I ask and urge the international community as well as human rights organisations, to not to be mesmerised by the front look of this deceitful manifested mirage. The international community must fetch what lies beyond the horizon and excavate the hidden ugly truth. This beautiful bed time story of the SNM Somaliland “tribal” based state, has a completely and utterly different story to it. I will conclude my comment with, apartheid is no foundation for law, order and democracy sister! Lets all come to the table. Lets all talk and eliminate hatred. Lets all remember that we are brothers and sisters. Lets all remember, our noble nomadic values. Lets all remember, back in the days, when problems occurred, our forefathers never fought against each other. In fact they all gathered around beneath one massive tree and solved the dilemma with a heart full of love, sincerity, brotherhood and fear of committing oppression if things don’t get solved. This is what happens when we forget about our rich history of unionism.

      3. I will repley to your answer you are somali but I am somalilander let us go back to history in 1940’s it is used call british protectrate or a british colony after that we volunterialy join to form what is call somalia in 1960 when we got our independance. our government need to take a minsteral post but that south italian colny somali rules they have not given not even one post even when we made union whoever the somaliland people they suffered from the regime of syed baree the dictator had boombarded the cities and killed 300,000 people and wounded a lot of people and this is a case that the international community to look at it .

        1. Dear all, we are aware that somali civilians particularly women, elderly, children rapidly suffered and died for hunger, unfair killings through false humanitarian aid which only weakened and distroyed the somali nation regardless south Somalia, north somali. Somalia current problems has been caused by outside intervention and used Somalia as battle ground to meet their selfish interest. For example billions funds donated to Somalia did not make any visible differences and the sufferings of the somalis continues whether you are from south and north Somalia. I believe that it is time to convince ourselves and be determined to solve the problems of Somalia without interverence and tribal discrimination and hate to one side to develop our somali land. Iam isaaq clan and lived in Mogadishu were I have been educated as a child and I truly missed the beauty of Mogadishu. One may argue, what, who distroyed Somalia and are we suffering when we have all our natural resources which benefits all somalis. On the hand, we must give huge credit to the success of somaliand and never deny them to have fully functioning united Somalia. Above all, somali needs to drop the AK47 they have been carrying since 1991 using different tactics such as warlordism and misinterpreted islamism to gain self interest which devided Somalia. We must agree as somalis that failure of Somalia came from the Italian, british and French colonism in which we are now suffering from divisions against each other through external donations through the ngo’s and western states. The cold war against Somalia begun after the ogaden war in 1977, after world witnessed the strenghth of Somalia. All somalis disliked mohamed siyad barre government simply because he knew that Somalia was due to be distroyed and became authoritarian to prevent chaos but the somalus did not listen and outcome clear now. God bless siyad for his all deeds. Above all , I believe external intervention to solve somali matters will not help and only further deteriorate the current problems in Somalia. Simply let Somalian people solve their problems alone and retreat all foreign troops from somalia and host international somali conference in hargeisa, second biggest city in Somalia and invite all somali functions including alshabaab representative to have a lasting peaceful solution. Please stop this tribal hate and promote love and peace to develop understanding of international relations. Where ever we go in the world we are known as Somali origin and we must promote unity at all times. Although we ate aware it is difficult at times but its our duty to make a difference with one love. God bless the world and bring less anarchy and pragmatic unity.

          1. Dear Jama and all others,
            I am proud of you Mr.Jama and your wise comment.Additionally,Britain should handle this event with past injustice committed against this people by it;s grand parents in mind.

        2. I pay my utmost human sense of gratitude and condolences to all of those family who have suffered under the Barre’s regime regardless of their tribes or representation . The man is dead for god sake. Islamically, dead people only owe blessing because definitely they are with God and facing their fate undoubtedly. Now, the ethnic genocide the SNM uses as an excuse to be separate from Somali is one of the most bias statements I have ever heard. Barre’s regime was a communist regime and if you studies politics you will know of what I am talking about. A Communist regime does not differentiate between its enemies. The primary priority of a Communist regime is to protect its power by any means necessary . We saw that in old soviet regime in which barre’s old government had a strong affiliation with. We saw that in the old Iraqi government meaning Saddam’s old government and the manner he has even executed his own family members. Only a non-educated person would use such an excuse. I am not here to defend him nor I have the intention to defend him, but Siyad Barre was a communist, and he killed and committed genocide even against his own people (The Daroods). He has killed thousands of Marjeerteens and in fact his first political opponent or rival came from a Darood man who later became Somalia’s president Abdulaahi Yusuf. Siyad barre has even committed genocide and killed thousands of religion leaders.He did not give any flying monkey about race, religion, tribes, elders, politicians, activists ets….. A communist is a communist Mr Hersi. For you to say three hundred thousand people were killed in HG, WOW… I find it REALLY hard to believe that and somehow i can smell a rat and sense of exaggeration in you statement!

      4. Dear Matt Bough

        Common Britain are you serious? you want us do the same mistake our fathers and grandfathers did?, trough our hard earned independence into a failed state? you want us be part of dirty civil and tribe war in east of Africa? force our fishermen to be sea pirates like puntland state of Somalia? create fundamentalist alshabab a like youth in our beautiful somaliland?

        Frankly speaking i felt offended by calling us being part of somalia so please edit your above statement.

        Recommendations:-

        1:- get an advice or study how somaliland succeeded peace building process

        2: Address Italian Somalia problems first.

        3:-include and invite all the stake holders of south Somalia issue fairly and balanced manner.

        Good luck

        1. in reply khadar
          SSC is part of somali Democratic Republic wether you like or not.
          Britain has not bought a land into somalia and fully aware of SSC region and clan who owns it, so be realistic. Means accept to participate the conference, it is the interest of all somali speakers.

          1. It is very sad to see the very people who claim to be unionist and calling for ‘united Somalia’ are at the same time calling for the division of the same communities who live in the same regions they claim unite. Look at what this disgrace claim made in Taleeh village few weeks ago they say they are establishing Dhulbahante based ‘state’. I’m from British citizen whos is also belong to Boohoodleh clan and I’ve never feel so ashamed then ever before as Dhulbahante man. We do not need foreign sponsored conference to sort out our difference. If those crying about Somalia are honest about what they are calling for then they should be realistic and face the truth about what the Somalia situation is. Somalia does not need one solution nor it needs to be imposed on what already failed it, like what Mr. Matt calls ‘road map’. Let us support those who stood up and built their country and brought peace, harmony and stability without outside interference or African foreign troops protecting from one another, and that is THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND where peace and stability is norm. The people who hail what they call SSC are within Somaliland borders and we support Somaliland as one entity. We say to Mr. Matt good luck with the impossible mission you want to achieve, but you can not diminish the existence of Somaliland and its people’s aspirations. Charity begins at home, so if their is no peace and people of Somalia, like Mogadishu and beyond, Mr Matt and British government sponsored conference will not bring peace to Somalia. Just look back in the last 20 odd years.

        2. Dear Matt Baugh,

          Let me take this opportunity to congratulate British prime minister and his government for not only hosting this historic conference on Somalia but enormous support that Britain offer to the good people of Somalia. Its worthy to mansion that Britain is the home of the largest Somali Diaspora on earth and so long being positive actor about the Somali issue.
          It seems we are not there yet to donate an accurate advice and plans to the world in order to end the horrible era. We should be good to find out better way to proverb, wiser to halt abhorrence and use all tools possible to accept the facts on the ground. Let us all remember that Britain won’t solve our harms their role is clear facilitation course only. Problem of Somalia’s for us to participate equally, sincerely to come up with rational termination of the past and generate new Somalia that can learn from the past and offer better chance for all walks of life. As we heard of or may be there to remember we had firs democratically elected government in Africa and for sure we have it in recorded history. We also had first presidential (may god give mercy His excellence Adan AbdulleOsman) peacefully power shift in Africa. Fair enough, we can do it again with even very much so or even much enhanced federal foundation to star from (bottom up approach)grassroots’ to the national level. We are all upset but we can make it well within this outstanding moment. As Puntlanders’ we have full of dreadfulness scenarios than our fellow North Westerns (Somaliland) ethnic group but we prefer to stay in accord. We share to a large extent in common not single difference, perhaps political variation wherein collective responsibility is the only way forward.
          There might be Sign of hope if we put all emotional thoughts aside and unlock our brain power by facing reality and the matter in hand. Trying to picture situation in Somalia today is like an orphan who killed both parents and come on the streets to ask people for help because he/she is an orphan with no food and shelter to survive. We need not to condemn to the world organizations because there were not enough food on the ground to feed our people where virgin land of Somalia has enough to offer us and even surplus to the world if we use our brain precisely. Let not to criticize the foreign entities because we fail to have an open dialogue (same language, culture, and religion, intermarriages) to compromise our distinction and stood up for common interest.
          Finally, contributing to the upcoming conference is compulsory for all and I would love to see Somali people in agreement and disagreeing in constructive way and fairly contests which way out of all these in the past for thinking hard of what coming future are hold for us.
          My advices are as follows
          • International community must encourage Somali unity by adapting federal system.
          • Foreign military force is the only solution to defuse Al-SHABAB but our people are too sensitive to bear as such a brutal action. Given that, AL-SHABAB can benefit Ethiopian army on the ground for its religion misinformation therefore, to prevent any propaganda armed forces such as Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan and Malaysia would be an advantage to take the lead in its place.
          • Reinforcing Somali national army is crucial for Somalia and elsewhere (piracy, terror and all ill-actions) in the world. Consequently, huge investment should be made available to bring the law and order, to patrol its borders and secure its citizens.
          • Garowe accord must have vastly, universal support to end the transition period with no wrongly elected parliaments of full of former vicious warlords but energetic intellectuals need to be given confidence to fulfill these roles.
          • Concluding with this equation: No Way out without security and justice sectors powerfully invested, not security and justice without national unity including North West Somalia and no national unity without international political-pressure on all parts including our fellow (Somaliland) North Western.

          Hope my voice is heard

          Hussein A fiqi
          Nationalist
          alfiqi@gmail.com

      5. Hello to you all;

        My only request from GB, Somalis and all the respected representatives of nations who will gather in London this February to respect my/our wishes of May 31/2001.

        Those Somalis who have an issue with Somaliland, where were you when i needed you the most? don’t shed crocodile tears now for Somaliweyn it’s dead, you might not believe but that is the reality get over it people.

        There are individuals who are trying to teach the Brits a lesson or 2 on the tribes who inhabit Somaliland, i guess they don’t know the Brits Rule this Country close to a century

        Somaliland Ha Jiirto oo Ha Joogto,

      6. mate u are most silly n deluded person somaliland is a nation n will be for ever weather u like or not today the general army was in gambadha town address his army it does not matter if u or anybody else writte to david camron or his gorvenment it wont change anything, somaliland will be recongised country soon enough so plz try not to have heart attack

      7. In respond to Abdi who may have possibly missed the golden opportunity that was given to all Somalis by Matt asking them to express their views towards the incoming Somali conference and how this can be done differently from the last 15 conference. I believe that our views and our discussions should be evidence based and it should be avoided any speech which may create problems between Somalis who have already suffering their self inflicted wounds.
        Firstly, as being a Somaliander, may I take the opportunity to thank Honourable Gentleman, David Cameron, British PM for taking this bold decision in calling for a conference for Somali people with a view of addressing the ongoing feuds, hatred, and wars among Southern Somalis which led them to have endless fights among themselves despite the world community have been spending millions on them. The money had been wasted as it was certainly not being spent on people. The international community has formed so many ineffective and toothless governments over the years. My view is that, we need to learn from our history.

        I am not here to entertain you with long and meaningless email, but in a nutshell, anyone who has a brain knows that all these previous conferences held in the past for Somalis were unproductive and created more problems to the point that they have been interfering with Somaliland in an attempt to spread the fire in Somaliland with the view of forcing it eventually to join them as this will enable them to re-invent the dead theory of bringing all 5 Somalis in one place. This theory was tested and it is the theory responsible for the genocide committed by Siad Bare regime which killed more than 50,000 people in Northern Somalia or Somaliland. This theory carried out the undistinguishable rape and torture for our elders, intellectuals, children, mothers, girls and it was misplaced millions of my ancestors. This theory should be buried forever as it causes panic attacks, anxiety and fear among my people. The decision for Somaliland to regain its independence was not born out of one family. It was born out because, all of the different communities in Somaliland, including elders, Guurti, Garads and intellectuals came together and called for inclusive conferences one of which was held in Burao and in Awdal in 1991 and the outcomes of their conference were that it will not be in the best interest of Somaliland to remain with the rest of Somalia again and the decision adopted was that Somaliland should reclaim its independence from the rest of Somalia. No one was forced to take this decision; it was taken unanimously among all communities in Somaliland.

        In light of this, I recommending that the British Government should take a strong decision in addressing where the solution of Somali is coming from which is, to recognise Somaliland before the fire in Mogadishu reaches them too. If British Government is not ready for making such this decision in the near future, it should come up with another solution urgently, possibily (Semi-state) which may enable Somaliland to be part of the world club.

        Finanlly, i am urging for Somaliland Goverment to attend this confernece.

        Once again, thank you for giving us this golden opportunity.

        Kindest regards, Saeed

      8. Hi Abdi ,
        I really admire your inspiring writings about the real status of the Somaliland.
        I am a graduate form oxford and worked many national l and international organizations before i moved to new Zealand . your comments on the issue of the Somali political situation is well articulated piece of work and i agree with all your clarifications when dealing with the Somali crisis. For the last week many Khatumo sate residents were miss treated in Lasanod for just expressing their wishes for the unity of Somalia and this will open an all war for the people of Northern Somalia . I would like to share with thee UK Government not to jump the gun but hopefully allow more Independent scholars to attend this important Conference in London so that their contribution will give an inclusive dialogue for all Somalis regardless of their tribal difference.

        Ismail

        1. Dear Matt and other Somali colleagues,
          I hope this finds you well.

          The upcoming conference on Somalia on 23 Feb in London hosting by the Great Britain and invited around 40 key Somali partners and key interests will hopefully bring a bright future and is step change.

          Somalia, Has been an narchy for last decades, Enough is Enough, our people has Experienced from poverty, continuously fighting of massacring innocent, piracy and terrorism brutal killings. today is to stand for our future and peace and stability restore.

          Somalia is only one nation with one language with one religion, regardless the differences of clan and other individual interests , no More Somaliland, Puntland and other so-called administrations it’s about time to move forward and to be united. Thanks for the peaceful efforts made by Somaliland and Puntland Administrations and for the good humanitarian access to their areas ensuring the local community needs meet with international responses.

          Mussa Gelle-Puntland,

      9. Thank you for the points you raised. We are all tired and fed up of what is going on in Somalia; an endless war, famine and devestation. This conference most be decicive in implimenting viable solutions. We must be able to have a government and solve the refugee crisis in Kenya and Ethiopia. Those in Somalia who do not want a Somalia government must be help accountable. The guns must be collected from all these clans and their militia. Lawless warlords must be tried. The list is long but honest and just Somalis with some help would be able to do a great job of this. I am confident that this conference is a way forward. Thank you again.
        A.D Timayare

    2. Dear Matt Baugh,
      As a British Somalilander, I do welcome the British initiative to end the endless anarchy in Somalia. Evidently, the problem of Somalia affect many countries, in particular the neighboring countries such as Ethiopia, Somaliland and Kenya. This also affects countries like UK where Somalians live in number. However, to find a remedy for this problem, the British government has to be realistic and not deny the facts on the ground otherwise the London conference will fail as all the fourteen previous conferences failed.
      For your information, the Republic of Somaliland gained its negotiated independence from the UK on the 26th June 1960 as one country and it’s been recognize at that time by 34 countries. However, after five days, on the 1st of July 1960, the new born state united with Somalia and that union gave birth to the former Somali Republic (1st July 1960-17th May 1991). Well, the de facto state of Somaliland withdrew from that union on the 18th of May 1991 and has started building a nation from scratch.
      What you need to understand is also that Somali is an ethnic identity and not a nationality so if you want to describe the people of Somalia please call them Somalians. Somalis are a multinational ethnic group and inhabit in five different countries (Somaliland, Somalia, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Kenya).
      As British Somalilanders, we were following very closely in the last few months your Somaliasation campaign that you have launched at your blog titled SomaliainUK and we feel that our human rights are violated as you have used in this blog events such as Somali Week Festival where Somali speaking communities in London, including Somalilanders and Djiboutians, exhibit their literature and cultures. We will definitely protest about this campaign by the FCO and by our MPs as it is a total discrimination against British Somalilanders who were and are a very loyal British allies for more than a century. We believe that your campaign is in the interest of terrorists who have Islamized the Somali ethnic identity and promote the jihad against Ethiopia, Kenya and Somaliland who they believe are anti-Somali thus anti-Islam.
      Best regards,
      Id Hassan Muse,
      Coordinator
      West London Somaliland Community

    3. dear Matt,

      It seems we are not there yet to donate an accurate advice and plans to the world in order to end the horrible era. We should be good to find out better way to proverb, wiser to halt abhorrence and use all tools possible to accept the facts on the ground. Let us all remember that Britain won’t solve our harms their role is clear facilitation course only. Problem of Somalia’s for us to participate equally, sincerely to come up with rational termination of the past and generate new Somalia that can learn from the past and offer better chance for all walks of life. As we heard of or may be there to remember we had firs democratically elected government in Africa and for sure we have it in recorded history. We also had first presidential (may god give mercy His excellence Adan AbdulleOsman) peacefully power shift in Africa. Fair enough, we can do it again with even very much so or even much enhanced federal foundation to star from (bottom up approach)grassroots’ to the national level. We are all upset but we can make it well this outstanding moment for all. As Puntlanders’ we have full of dreadfulness scenarios than North West Somali (Somaliland) ethnic group but we prefer to stay in accord. We share to a large extent in common not single difference perhaps political variation wherein collective responsibility is the only way forward.
      Finally, my advices as follows
      • International community must encourage Somali unity by adapting federal system.
      • Foreign military force is the only solution to defuse Al-SHABAB but our people are too sensitive to bear as such a brutal action. Given that, AL-SHABAB can benefit Ethiopian army on the ground for its religion misinformation therefore, to prevent any propagandas Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan and Malaysia would be an advantage to take the lead in its place.
      • Reinforcing Somali national army is crucial for Somalia and elsewhere (piracy, terror and all ill-actions) in the world. Consequently, huge investment should be made available to bring the law and order, to patrol its borders and secure its citizens.

      Hope my voice is heard
      Hussein A Fiqi
      Nationalist

    4. First and foremost, we request the British government to declare respect for the unity and sovereignty of Somalia, because we reject the separation of Somaliland from the rest of the territory of Somalia, and you know that we suffer from the mistakes of the colonial British handover of the territory of Somali west into the hands of the Ethiopian, And NFD region into the hands of Kenya, but we still ask for re-Socotra island into the hands of Somalia, please declare that you are respect the unity and sovereignty of Somalia.

      Thank you
      Ali Abdi
      Mogadishu-Somalia

      1. Thank you Ali Abdi. Mogadisho is about to see peace. I shall come back soon. You just saying you are in Mogadisho makes me feel homesick!

    5. Dearest Matt Baugh
      We appreciate you for the efforts of the Great Britain and for the chance of the upcoming conference,
      that recognising Somaliland is out of question, its only Isaaq clan the rest Clans
      Dhulbahante, Warsangali,Gudebiirsi, all they want Great Somalia.
      It is time that the UK stops giving aid to Isaaq clan only (Hargaysa and Barbara) because this aid is used to kill people in Sool, Sanaag ,Ayn and.Awdal.
      If Isaaq people want independent they have to win referendum Against The whole Great Somalia stop dreaming you can’t hijack other people Freedom.

    6. Dear Matt,

      In a nutshell, I support the London Conference in search for possible and internationalized ideas to stabalize the failed state of somalia.

      But, I would like to draw your attention (British Political Calculation) to reconsider the rule of thumb into realities on ground. Somaliland Republic is far more than what other so-called Somalian intelectuals convey during discussion at a time.

      Your government invited our government, and the Governement of SOmaliland is calculating the interest that holds London Conference for our future.

      Let me say, Your are the only governement can change the status quo through diplomatic coordination efforts within and accross your allies and freinds. In addition, There was continues bias and underestimation for our cause and this conference perpetuates the old ideas. Therefore, As Somaliland National, I am not supporting to consider somaliland as a part of Somalia. We chosen to be separate to the somalia affairs.

      Regards,
      Nur Yusuf Abdilahi

      1. How can you say that while Khatumo, Awdal and Makhir state are against secession? This is one family project and the world is tried of it.

    7.  

      Opinion:- Dear Matt, Congratulations on your new appointment and I welcome you to our country with open arms. With your assistance..

      once Somalia finally solves her problems, I promise that you will be working with one of the most wonderful societies in Africa with great culture and selfless hospitality.

      To capitalise on the recent achievements by the joint Somalia – Amisom armies, Britain is in a unique position at the London Somalia Conference to end the stalemate in the Horn of Africa country. To ensure a successful conference, a comprehensive governance plan is needed in order to put Somalia’s failed state status on the history shelves. Britain has the opportunity to do just that. Britain must apply a Sierra Leone style pressure to spoilers of peace and statehood in Somalia. We can’t afford any more let down in the offensive against the Shabab and others. A new diplomatic offensive on Somaliland must also be waged at LSC. A peace within an area of Somalia is not a just peace without a closure to the political arrangements.

      We know that there are no Habar Gidir clan fighting the Abgaal in Benadir and no Harti clan engages the Mareehaan in the Juba Valley. There are no combat between Habar Jelo and Habar Yonis in Burao and warlords became history long time ago. There is no strong Qanyare manning the check points in the capital anymore therefore, short-listing the Somalia crisis to only two elements is not that difficult.

      I short listed Somalia’s numerous symptoms which prevented her from establishing a functioning governance system to only two sticking wounds: Alshabab and Somaliland. Tell me if there is a major third element which obstructs future Somali central administration in reaching to every region within Somalia. I recognise, however, a third minor frustrating point: The so called Somali Parliamentarians. But this largely semi illiterate so called Parliamentarians can be told to leave the chamber at once – they should not be a problem since we can simply withdraw their monthly allowances.

      At the conference in London however, we need to close the Somalia deal – and close it now. We have never been closer to solving the Somalia quagmire – the wind is blowing towards settlement and prosperity. I strongly believe that peaceful and healthy Somalia – a Somalia without pirates, terrorisms and warlords can come out of the LSC only and only if the final nail is hammered to the Somalia crisis: expel the Shabab and deliver Somaliland to the table.

      In order to achieve this, Somaliland leaders must be told in no uncertain terms that they must join in the final peace process while we open several fronts to keep the pressure on the Shabab to expel them from all the territories they currently hold.

      In fact those who invented the idea of the division of Somalia are equally responsible for the disintegration of the Somali nation. They depressed the Somali nation right from the start with their proclamation of separate imaginary state in some parts of the north. Furthermore, the former warlords flourished in the South of the country and started their long and protracted anarchy from the desperation of ‘where Somalia headed if the country is divided’. Therefore, Somaliland leaders must be told to renounce their false dreams of a separate state and take part in this final peace process – to make Somalia peaceful and united. A Sierra Leone style all inclusive and comprehensive solution must be applied at the conference in London. No more engagements and no more appeasements to those who dream of imaginary states such as the so called Somaliland in the north and the prehistoric Wahabists anarchist across Somalia.

      The Shabab must be wiped out of the map of Somalia – thanks to Amisom this is already happening. But the pressure must be kept on Somaliland – the division of Somalia must be rejected at the conference. If Amisom and the Somali Transitional Government build on the momentum to eradicate the Shabab and the LSC tells Somaliland to join in the peace process, a free Somalia can join the family of nations by the end of this spring.

       

  2. We the Somali People are pleased with the effort of the government of the UK. Its indeed an important step to finding a sustainable peace in the Somali problem. But my concern as will be many educated young Somalis living abroad (Sweden), is the blind attention given to the one of the most important arm of the Somali structure, The Youth. More then 80 percent of all the warring parts comprise the youth, Alshabaab use them as a tool to enforce their fatal agendas, so as the pirate and other interesting groups. This therefore necessitates the importance of including the youth in all future political landscape in Somalia. The TFG, though there are outstanding individuals who are committed to bringing stability peace to Somalia, have time and again proved to be the only reliable partner in Somalia.

    My humble request to the UK government and the organizers of this conference is the youth be given an opportunity to shape their future and the future of Somalia. Another important element in the Somali way of life is the role of the elders and community leaders, i believe the inviting of some self interested so called leaders into the meeting and calling it the Somali authority will not make desired change on the ground.

    Its my sincere hope that the UK government involvement in Somali’s politics is sincere as mentioned in the report above.

    I wish the Somali people all the success and dignity they have lost for decades.

    Hassan Mao
    Sweden

    1. Hello Everybody;
      I would like to say this is a very important forward step for the future of Somalis in general and particularly those who love their real identity which is the blue flag with white star in the middle.
      I am suggesting that the British Government has to consider and invite to the conference all state Governments and find solutions .

      Awdal State and Khatumo State are particularly to be invited as they could contribute fundamental ideas for one Somalia. They had made possible the Somali unification after independence on July 1st, 1960.

  3. Thanks Matt for keeping us updated about the Somali conference scheduled on 23rd February 2012. It seems to me so far you and your colleague are doing great job to once more to restore hope and future for many suffering Somali’s including women and children. I hope the outcome of the conference will be positive for those people who are suffering through out twenty years and will give them support to go back safely their rightful properties in Mogadishu and elsewhere in Somalia..

  4. Hi Matt Baugh thanks for your information You give us ,this is what a Somalia need it now ,you are and your Goverment they are right direction keep moving in that right direction .good lucky.

    Reply

  5. The London Conference should:
    1) Support the unity of the Somali Republic.
    2) Support a truly democratic Somalia as the final outcome of the civil war.
    3) Support a judiciary system independent of political and tribal
    interference.
    There is an opportunity for the International Community to support the estabilishment of a JUST SOCIETY in Somalia (a future show-case for Africa).

    1. it is really stange, to see that western governments are still willing to waste thier effort again in what was once called somalil Republic. this reminds me One of somaliland old person, used to put the seeds in the river, and still expects to get the fruits. i believe it is the right time, to change the tone, and regonize somaliland. where there is a stability, Administeration, elected government. this will help and share the solution of the othre southern somalia.the problem is when the western nations still get thier feed back from un reliabel sources, and only those personells, who get the benefits of the western support, but keep in mind the somali nation do not get any tangable support, Do wetern nation, believe feeding the hunguary people will solve the criticale case? i do not think so, we have to face the reallity, and devide this case in two different parties, as they used to be, which is south and north, and solve each case seperately, this means regonizing somaliland is the only solution , then somaliland will take its lion share to finalize the southern somali problems. other wise the whole world is just wasting thier effort as well as their support, and the somali problem will arise for ever.

  6. Britain and Italy were the two colonial powers before Somalia born as Nation in 1960s. Italia tried to come back and help Somalia during the 20 years and so Somalia disintegrated into the current crisis. But Britain did not bother what happened to Somalia. Instead, Britain was happy to be the passenger for Somalia issues. Many Somalis were surprised the indifferent attitudes displayed by the Britain.

    As the suffering of Somalia continue, its never too late for Britain to come to the rescue and stand for Somalia.

    With regards to the suggested agendas, I think all those topics are important and relevant. However, I would like to make clear for the conference organisers that the discussions toward the political issues are more important. The best this conference can achieve is to agree a formation of inclusive Parliament without former warlords. Put in place an agreeable benchmark for who can become parliamentarian, such as higher education.

    I personally hope the London conference successful and Somalia gets back its place in the world community.

    Musse Ali

    1. first all somali people must know that somaliland will never be part of somalia again all s/landers take their own decision they make every thing in order to get recognistion and international comunity must know thay s/land people have rights they must take what they want i love my country somaliland if britain goverment want to desrtoy somaliland it will listen somalia and if it want somaliland it must give somalianders what they want somaliland will never come back those waiting somalailand never waste your time we get every thing peace goverment also we are developing our country what somalia did somalia is only busy how to destroy peace full countryies

  7. the success of the out come of this conference is vital for the future of our people. But the question is who will be representing the Somali people in the conference and how will they be selected?
    As we Somalis aware most of the previous conferences never succeeded because of picked handed by international communities known by Somalis one man part leaders who represent their-selves interests.
    I hope Uk conference organizers will not follow dead ended routs of
    two decades conferences,

  8. Thank you Matt for this important update.

    As a British Somali citizen I am glad that Britain is taking the lead in supporting the peace of Somalia and building of dialogue among all regions.

    I am concerned about the situation of all sections of Somalia both north and south and like all Somalis I am fed up of the never ending unrest in Somalia, in particular the current situation in Northern Somalia; Lasanod / Buhodle regions (Khaatumo State of Somalia), which you have not mentioned in the above statement.

    President Shiikh Sharif has spoken about the situation in this region recently, as it is currently of great concern to the peace of Northern Somalia and is detrimental to the stability of all states: Somaliland, Khaatumo and Puntland.

    I have high hopes for this meeting taking place in my city London, I hope the outcome will be a peaceful Somalia for the benefit of both the Somali people in the Diaspora and those in all regions of Somalia.

    1. dear idil :i wonder what you are talking any somali person can`t classify whether you are educated or uneducated.we know that somaliland and somalia are different countries only they share the name of somali.
      AFTER that i want to tell mr.matt baugh that somalilanders never accept if the UK government suggests to unite with somalia we can`t denny that uor leaders will take part the confrence but they are going to tell what tru is .
      every body knows that somaliland was self existed country before the british colony captured the country then we joined somalia but in 1991 when the country heavily collapsed we declared an independence this girl called IDIL i think she doesn`t know nothing about somaliland and she is telling a lie when she said there is AWDALSTATE,KHATUMOSTATE something like that there is no states inside somaliland everybody knows that even MATT BAUGH lives now nairobi and he is seeing the reality plzzz don`t tell any lie about the country of somaliland that is allllllllll

      1. yes nasir you are right there isn what called khatoumo and awdal that false states are used in oder to make desrtuctoin and its used by special persons that wants only money somaliland is somalind there is no what is called states in somaliand and will never be if any one try to say some thing not true about somaliland he is one of the somalia people those dont want somaliland to be paece full they want somalland to be like somalia tha t will never happen somaliland will have its peace and development and will never be part of somalia that is promise

        1. It’s Somaliland that was welfare state for the last twenty years. SNM in Hargeisa can’t force people of Khatumo, Awdal and Makhir for something they don’t want.

  9. Many somalis are looking positively for the upcoming conference at London. The hope is high and the UK is well-known for being serious and effective change-maker. Political party leaders are among progressive people who are encouraging public to the direction of positive change. We wish Matt and other British organizers for the best of the conference and successful outcome. Chair of the People Party.

  10. Dear Mr Baugh, I will let you know what I think as you are clearly asking for some guidance and ground facts.
    It is very misfortune that individuals like you have been assigned to involve in the political turmoil in the Horn of Africa. Reading your article her teaches me nothing more than that the West has done it AGAIN; that is failing the region, again, by appointing another, keen but incompetent, diplomat. there is an ongoing political violence in the region due to the interference of misguided and misinformed international community’s envoys like you. If I may correct you about one fundamental fact that you have, consciously or subconsciously, committed a gross error on in your assumption here is the distinct between the two countries; that is Somalia and Somaliland, which you assumed is one unity called Somalia “The opportunity to reinforce the relative stability in areas of Somalia, such as Somaliland and Puntland and in the south”. Fact – there was never Somalia, and for a politically active and British diplomat to make this error, it is damaging for the ageless and rich British international affairs.
    The countries you are referring to here, were known, prior to Somaliland’s withdrawal in 18 May 1991 from the 1st July 1960 voluntary union, the Somali Republic, NOT Somalia as you have repeatedly stated in your article here.
    While the ‘Somalia’ you are appointed to interfere is a “failed state”, Somaliland, which may not be priority assignment is a democratic country that has a democratically elected government just like Britain, the one that has assigned you to deal with that region of the world. Somaliland, a functioning democracy in the Horn of Africa, has population of millions that declared their wish to be independent from the ‘voluntary union’ of former Somali Republic in a referendum. I hope this fact, least, reminds you about the value of democracy and self-determination, which may lead you to understand and respect the distinction between the two countries.
    I congratulate you for being enthusiastic about Somalia and her affairs and for being keen in assisting in bringing about positive change, but Mr Baugh, DO NOT be fooled about realities on ground. Do not be another Boutros Boutros Ghali when dealing with truth on ground in that region of the world. Your job as a British diplomat and/or Civil Servant is very important and as a British Somalilander, myself, I will be very disappointed if you fail either country of mine; Britain and Somaliland.
    Thank you, and I hope my advise comes to you useful in your assignment, which is, I believe, very crucial.

    1. Dear Salma Sheik…

      The purpose of the meeting in London is not to create further unnecessary division amongst the Somali people, 20 years is enough!

      I am sure Matt is very aware of the situation in Northern Somalia (Somaliland Khaatumo and Puntland). As a British Citizen originating from Northern Somalia (Hargeisa) I know that it is in the interest of all those who reside in both North Somalia and South Somalia ..that this meeting is a success.

      Lets all hope that through dialogue we can improve our beloved country and all its regions.

      The British Government is supporting a united peaceful and stable Somalia… We should all be thankful.

      1. Idil, your claim here of being a Somalilander, who supports the failed ideology; Soomali Weyn/Greater Somali Republic, of Dictator and former president of Somali Republic, Mohamed Siyad Bare, is pathetic and probably why the ‘Somalia’ is considered a “failed state” in the world. Your pretence and denial is, my friend, very sad and psychotic. You comparing a country of over 5 million people to a family gathering of one of the many sub clans of Somalilanders in Sool. However, what is more sadder is the foreign interventionists who are trying to deal with the ‘Somalia’ situation and taking advise from, clearly challenged, people, who can not simply comprehend of keep up with changing political and social spheres of our region and/or globe. The world has changed and moved away from ‘expansionism’. If it did not, you would have seen one Europe, one Arabia world, instead of new born sovereigns like that of Southern Sudan. It is a reality that the Somali Republic is no more and ‘Greater Somali Republic’ died with its thinker Siyad Bare. It’s about time the few foreign hopefuls, but yet uneducated about the facts, move onand come up with new ways to rescue the ‘Somalia’ as the Somali Republic will be NO more.
        One last thing for Matt Baugh and his co on February London Conference; as long as you chose to deny the truth and ignore Somaliland’s vital role in assisting rescue the Somalia, and as long as you plan the coming conference on ‘Somalia’ and ignore other major countries in the HoA that ‘Somalia’s’ ongoing problems affect, Somaliland will NOT be part of your initiative as Somaliland’s government is an elected government that acts, purely, on Somalilanders’ wishes, and is restricted by the country’s constitution from participating such conferences. So, if that is yours and your bosses’ plan, go ahead and meet with the TFG, which, unfortunately, was formed outside the ‘Somalia’ by non Somalians, and which is considered a joke by most leaders and scholars due to their inactive role in the ‘Somalia’.
        Please, people of the now ‘Somalia’ wake up and stop pretence and living in denial. Accept facts. Look around you in the world, and accept change. Come up with new initiatives to rescue your country, instead of hanging on to the failed ideology inherited from a former Dictator, because, he wanted to unite the five Somali speaking countries hence the white star with 5 angles on the Blue flag. Two of these countries/regions are occupied and only Allah knows when they will achieve their independence, other two are DJabouti and Somaliland, which neither of them has an interest now of unification. So, AGAIN, accept reality, because since you can not handle the ‘Somalia’ you have now, you can NEVER handle a ‘Greater Somali Republic’

        1. Dear Salma Sheik..

          I must say it fills me with great sadness to see a Somali person refusing to realize the path to peace. This is not a time to explore the tribal mixtures and tropical differences of the people in Northern Somalia whether it is Awdal, Somaliland, Khaatumo or Puntland. It is rather an occasion to find a peaceful resolution to the situation of the country as a whole. We have to appreciate the efforts of Great Britain and our TFG in reaching this prominent time where all have the possibility of conducting an open dialogue.

          I agree there is currently a tribal conflict in Northern Somalia between the Somaliland tribe (predominantly Isaaq) and Khaatumo State (predominantly the Dhulbahante). It is unfortunate that tribal conflicts persist in this day and age, hence why the TFG and Great Britain are greatly concerned and are encouraging all parties to open a peaceful dialogue.

          I am a supporter of peace and unity, I want to see change, I want the intervention of Great Britain as Somalia is clearly in need of assistance. I want to see all regions of Somalia living side by side peacefully, I am tired of any conflict whether it is the tribal situation in the North of Somalia or that alshabaab issues in the South of Somalia.

          I think twenty years is far too long to remain in disagreement, Somali people all over need to understand that differences need to be ironed out for a better tomorrow. I hope all the Sub-regions of Somalia whether it is North or South people will open their hearts and minds and change their ways in the name of peace and unity for their beloved country Somalia.

          I am proud to be British Somali… I am proud to be a citizen of a country that cares for the peace of all regions of Somalia.

          Thank you Great Britain.. thank you Matt for the opportunity to respond and all the hard work you and your team are doing for this important meeting.

          Lets all pray for peace and unity.

          1. It’s funny to hear the fake so called states tribal namely khaatumo and awdal; where do they exist except on cyberspace, where??

          2. And Somaliland exists in a deluded clan, if every village in the world declared sovereignty the world would have thousands independent nations?

          3. Thank you Idil,

            Obviously they don’t have the political maturity you have and their argument shows that. Thanks again and Viva Somalia.

        2. These extreme views about Somaliland’s independence is becoming stale. The fringe secessionists are running out of time and out of ideas. Why are you scolding this diplomat who has no power or authority to recognize your fake republic. After all you are claiming your borders based on British colonialism. As many have commented here, Somalia or Somali Republic (as if there is a difference!) is composed of Clans and Sub-Clans and Sub-sub-clans etc. So to establish a regional State let alone a Republic you need the undivided loyalty of all groups. Apparently, Awdal State and Khaatumo State do not agree with your agenda. It is better for Hargeisa to attend this conference and share with other Somalis what is rightly theirs, instead of isolating themselves. Soon you will not be even eligible to become a State within Somalia let alone an independent country.

        3. Somalia is a failed state because of people like you who have sinister move remember SNM and today the same SNM are claiming to be government will wake up Somalia is ONE and will never be divided by any entities.Divide and rule attitude is over people know what they want and nothing will stop them.I,am sure today if referendum is taken Somaliland as you claim will go down the drain think twice ONE SOMALI STATE and thats how it be

        4. Dear Salma,

          I take your concerns down, and in addition to this, as far as I am aware, Somaliland government has been invited to the conference but President Silaanyo’s government have refused to attend. So putting that in to perspective, i think it is fair to state that the British Government has invited all PARTIES concerned. Remember this is a conference NOT just on Somalia but concerns of Somalia, how it affects the sourrounding countries, therefore, Somaliland should be part of this conference and it gives them the opportunity to show case their concerns and map out to the rest of the world the great achievements that have been made.
          I am not from Somaliland, however, instead of people pointing fingers and blaming each other, I believe this is a unique opportunity for each country/region to let the international community know what they want/concerns and find some form of solution…

          Lets not forget, If somaliland do attend this conference, this will be a great exposure for them in showcasing their agenda for recognition to the international community and people should not view it as us and versus them but look at it from the wider context.

          I just hope this opportunity is caputalized by All sections of Somalia/Somaliland/Puntland etc and do whatever they can to avoid history repeating again, we do not want to see another road-map, another peace initiatives… The time is now, 2012, the year people really want to see real objectives/goals that concerns all parties brought to the table and the International community must then try whatever ways possible in implementing it, no more talk no more dreaming, lets see some action for the love of God.

    2. salma
      Mr Baugh do not need you to guide him of his work.
      your so called aka somaliland is not and never be exist.
      if you wish you can choose better name which could be like,hargaysa land or whatever.
      give up calling SSC part of somali-hargaysa because not!.
      that is why I say, you people from northwest of somalia need rehabilitation. to get the damage done. take lonftime to heal bewitched and brainwashed by your warlords.

  11. Welcome friends from UK who will set up a way that we can obtain the existence we lost over twenty years ago. Somalia does not need any more the tribal and unfair quota system 4.5 mechanism. Furthermore, please be aware the MAFIA that is against the Justice and fairness. The rulers who are self-made and who work the jungles of injustice, nepotism, uncountable to their embezzlements and wasting the entrust they have plundered. We need the rule of law and fairness rebirth and shine all over Somalia. Thanks friends of Great Britain and all over the world. Down the injustices that brought the Somalia the Current Mini unfair Establishments. Long live the Raasayrland, Awdal and Khaatumo States. We need a new government and the leaders who are not robbers and delinquents rulers.

    1. Somalia need to recognise the Somaliland and referendum of North Somalia or ( Somaliland British protectorate), and then solve the south problems.

      thanks

      1. Dear Rashid

        North Somalia consists of (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State and Puntland) …so I agree with you that the international community needs to recognise and support the tranquillity of all sub-regions. Being Northerner myself (Hargeisa).. the issues in Somaliland are close to my heart and I regard it as an important aspect that needs to be considered for the peace plans of the country as whole.

        Especially in the current climate where there is tribal conflicts (only yesterday the new Awdal State president which main sub-clans of the Samaron tribe have elected has visited Mogadishu to meet with the TFG Prime Minster Dr Abdiweli to gain the support of the TFG and report the tribal-linked mistreatments subjected to some sub-clans of the Samaron/ Gadabursi people in Awdal State and to strengthen the declaration of independence from the Somaliland Clan (Isaq)). Also in Lasanod there is still tribal issues (the Dhulbahante sub-clans in the region continue to complain to the international community for the unfair tribal-linked imprisonments and cruel treatments.. especially the targeting of the youth, boys, men and women in Lasanod based on their clan-root is a concern that needs to be addressed) .. In addition just last Sunday the Somaliland Clan (Isaq) has waved attacks on the civilians of the town of Buhodle by conducting barbaric wild shelling, burning homes and killing of civilians. All this under the watchful eye of the international community – the Cayn region (Khaatumo State)/ Buhodle remains on high alert due to anticipated ongoing tribal conflicts between Somaliland Clan (Isaq) and the Khaatumo State people (Dhulbahante) as I write here today. – Hence why this upcoming meeting is very important and of interest to all peace loving people in Northern Somalia.

        These unprovoked attacks and complaints from Northern Somalia is disturbing to both people living in North Somalia and those in the Diaspora who originate from the region. Also the relations of Northern Somalia sub-regions whether it is Puntland, Khaatumo, Awdal or Somaliland needs to be strengthened to ensure all clans of the region can live together peacefully … this is not just of interest to indigenous Northerners like me but also to the TFG, Great Britain and all our neighbouring countries (Ethiopia, Djibouti and Kenya).

        Hence, why we all need to support the British Prime Minister’s request for all regions to come to the table for peace talks… only through dialogue can consensus be reached and differences be resolved.

        Somalia is being abused by trivial quarrels, unnecessary hate, never ending grudge, terrorist thinking, uneducated tribal leaders who have no vision beyond their tribe, diseased individuals who are obsessed and blinded by clan flags and clan allegiance, refusal to see the common good, and of course the hopeless who never sees no light at the end of any tunnel, who chooses to remain ignorant in the face of enlightenment, who chooses to act deaf to the call of peace.

        Please let us all be the ones who put an end to this madness; let us be the change we all need to see. Let us avoid falling into the trap of another 20 years of tribe and alshabaab news… lets support the efforts of the British Government on this important agenda.

        This is a call to all peace loving Somali people from all regions.

        Somalia Somali Baa Leh (Somalia belongs to all the Somali people).

        Thanks
        Idil

        1. Dear Bough

          Let me clarify onething to everybody, We as Somaliland we were enjoying for the last 20 years relative peace. Why UK and other entities are willing to force us the failed notion of great Somalia?..Please call first and formost Djabouti,NFD, Ogaden, because we have watched 50 years ago same edition, I was born and grew up Somaliland 20 years ago. I started of primary school and recently graduated one of the Somaliland Universities I was under the flag of Somaliland, I will sacrifice everything to my country.. and Now it is not the time of the unification somalia and Somaliland.

          Somalia is where we cheated!!!

        2. dear Idil
          i actually very sad about your little knowledge about the Somaliland History!, because you are repeatedly saying Northern Somalia (Somaliland,Awdal, khaartumo and Puntladn) where is Puntlad you are always including as part of the Ex northern somalia.

          ok i thing you don’t disagree with that Republic of Somalia contained Two States or say Countries or Say colonies called British Somaliland Protectorate and Italy Somaliland, so u say Puntladnd was part of somaliland protectorate ?.

          all in all the Solution of somalia is to make two Countries called Somalia and Somaliland who are peacefully living side by side

          1. My learned friend Khadar no tribe can be a nation Somaliland is a trbal state known to the whole world period nothing you say or anyother entity will make it.Hence lets the poeples power have a say wake up

          2. khadar
            you are everywhere!
            still fighting for so called ‘somaliland’ the fake name because the name is right for all Somalia from rasasayr to raskamboni.
            and remember Awdale state and khaatumo state are belong to ‘Greater Somalia’.
            It is the time for SNM to give up and start healing the brainwashed kids of theirs in everywhere.

      2. hi
        somalia is one nation.one flag .one country it is not have border .one religion.islam .somalia it is need to solve proplem with out internatiol communite …. somaliland is part of somalia .khaatumo is part of somalia .awdal is part of somalia ….if u try to regocnize somaliland .tomorow it must to again regocnize khaatumo and net year it is must to rocogniz punland ……so.nave be opeing the way of somalia get new proplem …i would like to thank new state of somalai ..khaatumo…….. i am isaaq …but iam not like recognice ….,,,….i hope netx year to see one somali…..

  12. I want to briefly share with you what needs to be done to put an end to this protracted Somali suffering once for all. The underline Somali issue is lacking a functional government. That needs to be the priority. Having a functional government will solve most of the issues that international communities, including Britain has in mind. To do that though, we need a genuine Somali strategy that put the Somali interest first but NOT International community strategy that puts its interest ahead of the Somali interest. Time after time, we, Somalis, have witnessed strategies that were developed for us and asked our so called leaders to implement them. Once those experiments fail, we got blamed and a new strategy is crafted and is tasked to our next leader- that vicious cycle continues to this day; that has to top and I hope this conference does the opposite of what we have been doing thus far.

    Hersi
    MN, USA

  13. The problem is the Somali authority (Pre.Faroole,Pre.Shariif.The Speaker Shariif Hassan and the Yes man PM Abdiwali) we the Somali People are looking forward for your solution.

  14. Mr Baugh and his ilk will continue to make good life out of this process, while Somalis will continue to suffer and be a shame on Africa and humanity. I am just wondering why Somalis cannot solve their problem? And as for Somaliland, as long as we are free from international obligations, let us enjoy what we have and think about how one day we could send 200000 well armed boys to Somalia and claim our share, as other nations in the region are doing. And in our case, we shall not abuse any one. Instead we shall teach them how we liberated Somaliland from the likes of Mr BAUGH.

    Boy from Eel Sheikh, Republic of Somaliland

  15. Dear Matt Baugh
    Greetings of Peace . My name is Mohamed Ali Chairman of Somali American Peace Council. SAPC is a grass-roots organization established to help Somalia and its people. We are pleased that British Prime Minister David Cameron is hosting the upcoming conference on Somalia in February 2012. We would like to encourage you and your government to include the Diaspora community. We appreciate you and your government to take this positive step towards Somalia. We hope that UK becomes sincere peace maker. I will recommend the following:
    1- Stop the Ethiopian and Kenyan interference to Somali affairs
    2- Support peace makers from the Arab and other Muslim countries
    3- Abolish 4.5 clan based system
    4- Inclusive peace reconciliation
    5- Do not let Somalia be divided ( Historically the Europeans divided Somalia
    including the UK. However today our enemy Ethiopia is dividing Somalia )
    Thank you
    Mohamed Ali
    Chairman of Somalia American Peace Council

  16. I am a Somalilander. I believe in the ideals of this young nation, I believe in its promise.

    We in Somaliland have led a fragile existence over these two past decades within confines imposed by the powerful human imperatives of fear and hope; fear of becoming part of the Somali problem, of being forced to melt into the politics of chaos and statelessness, of turning into feuding tribes massacring each other on the barren lands. This fear and the resulting state of circling the wagons has kept us alive and allowed us to raise a generation in peace and democracy. Fear has been our ally, our savoir. And we have borders with hope too, distant yet alluring hope, that we as Somalilanders might be able to play a constructive role that would allow Somalis everywhere to pursue dreams that are compatible with life, dignity and survival. Hope that commitment of the Somaliland State to solution of the Somali problem may spell the difference between success and failure. I place emphasis here again on the term Somalilander, citizens who believe in the concept of Somaliland and who are willing to pay all costs associated with such a conviction; for self appointed representatives of all the tribes of Somaliland, has been part of all reconciliation conferences in Somalia.

    I wonder what role if any my fellow Somalis see for people like me; die hard Somalilanders, in this upcoming conference in London in particular and in the solution of the Somali crisis in general (except of course wishing us to die or go away to some other terrible fate)? Can Somaliland be part of the Solution or do some see its complete disintegration as part of the Solution?

    Sincerely
    Dr. A Jowhar

    1. Hi, Dr. Jowhar:
      Yes. I believe that Somaliland can be part of Somalia’s solution. But first and foremost Somalia & its citizens must accept the fact that Somaliland is a country that exists and have existed before the failed union. Each one of them must recognize the other fully, to respect their wishes. Their recognition for each other will certainly create a friendly atmosphere of mutual understanding between the two sisterly countries that existed before, and can exist side by side once more – same like the Arab countries, or the Swahili-speaking East African ones. Their help to each other can start from there. But if we continuously deny one another, our major concerns will be ignored by us, and the rest of the world would be unable to help too. Thus continuous failures of all efforts, whether it is made by us or are orchestrated by international organizations. Thank you for opening that kind of positive dialogue between our successful Somaliland & the ailing Somalia country that needs our help. May God bless you, and may God bless all the positive-minded Somalilanders like you in this world. Once more, thank you & thanks to Matt as well as UK, since they are giving this good chance to Somalia.

    2. HI
      I belive if you want be part of the solution recognize somaliland If you don”t you are part of the of the prob and in that case our leaders don’t hesitated to walk out.
      The diffreances south somali and us ‘somaliland’ we are loyal to our leadres ,but somali who is their leader alshabaab, suna wal jameca ,pirates or so called TFG.mine telling me why we’re having this conferance.there’s no much British gov can do unless you recognise somaliland.well, If you’ll excuse me I’d better keep watching my border omg I’m hopping the police will catch him(al shabaab) before we we have to go that route somalia took it long time ago.

      1. While ‘Somalilanders’ are busy proclaiming democracy to the world, their kids are leaders of Al- shaabab and are busy wrecking havoc to the poor southerners who have just recovered from years of warlord-ism.

  17. Hi Matt Baugh Somalia does not need to half solution but we expect London conference full solution .I think we should take first step ,so the out come of the London conference at 23 Feb…. 2012
    will be helpful hand from UK and world.

    I would like to high light her there is different interests from neighbor country and Somalia’s people I don’t know how UK government and the world to address this issue ?

    Secondly western world their major problem in Somalia is about piracy and Terrorist organization. If London conference focus only this two (piracy and Terrorist) it means Uk is not really want to get solution or help to Somalia .

    I hope UK will tell loudly to Somalia to forget colonial strategy of dividing of Somalia ,
    rather UK calling for Somalia to be party of Commonwealths.
    I remained her we heard world is very tired from us, we my change bad behavior we witness last 21 year in Somalia- so we can get the real help from them.
    Good lucky

  18. Hi every body.
    Is it yet not the time to support the future of Somalia as a nation? You see that people whom have more problems and differences form nations and unity government and still piont their fingers at our failure.

    Why we have always to support outsiders ideology or the so called Balkanisation of Somali.?

    Just look to our neighbors both Ethiopia and kenya have very diverse of tribes that do not share even language and culture, forget about relligion.

    Yet these governments are claiming and working round the clock on supporting any Somali that is against establishing a unity government in Somalia.

    we just saw what agenda kenya had in invading Somalia and trying to create bufferzones inside the legitimate land of Somalia by killing many innocent Somali people.

    Don,t we are made of flesh and blood like other people? Why we have to give more chances to the enemy of our people?.

    I believe that the time has come that we forget our differences and see the hatrage by others toward our people and unite once and for all just for the sake of our own survival.

    thank you and engage peace with Somalia and the Somalis. We live togethar as brother or we perish togethar as fools! Martin Luther King

  19. Thanks for the update on the conference. I was wondering whether you can advise on attendance for young somalbritish graduates interested/ active on somali issues. I would be grateful if you can provide info on that. Thanks.

  20. As a British citizen in UK, though i am originally from Buhodle (Dhulbahante), i take my children to Hargeisa then Buhodle for holidays, I feel as Somalilander, and i do not want to be part of Somalia rather than to be Somalilander because Somaliland is secure, have well established democracy, woman have role in civil society, and i believe somaliland have every right to fight the terrorists other wise it will be failure state like South Somalia, and way forward is referendum under UN. for north of Somalia other wise for long term will be like South of Somalia.

    1. This platform has been hijacked with people trying to misinform the public, especially to spread propaganda in the interest of the semi-autonomous region Somaliland.

      North Somalia has been a conflict area in the last 20 years, particularly in the Sool, Sanaag and Cayn region. This region has always supported Somali unity and recently declared Khaatumo State of Somalia.

      A few days ago Somaliland attacked the town Buhodle (part of Khaatumo State), following the declaration of Khaatumo State of Somalia in Taleex. The unrest in North Somalia should be taken seriously by the Somali community and the international community, and I believe it should be part of the agenda in the conference.

      1. Dear Salman

        Thank you for highlighting the fact that Samsam Noor is trying to mislead Matt by that fake sob story. It is really sad to see so many of my fellow Northerners, in particular my brothers & sisters from the Somaliland Clan (Isaq) ..creating unnecessary hate and false messages in this great announcement by the British Government.

        All my Somali people in Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State, Puntland) ….I hope you all understand how important this opportunity explained by Matt is for our country… this is not a time for jokes and tit tats, lets all grow up and see Matt’s message for what it really is rather than what your clan dictators tell you.

        Think of the common good, individualism will not save you nor keep you alive, we are all brothers and sisters… see the differences you hold as your poor imaginations and seek help (counselling) to restore any inner troubling feelings that you may have for your fellow Somalis (whether it is caused by your clan-dictators or just your ignorance).

        The past is done and dusted, it will not come back to haunt you (I promise)… so free yourself from hate and seek forgiveness and peace.
        What is good for you is also good for me …a better Somalia is what we all need not a clan-flag that goes nowhere… so lets join hands and pray for Somalia (at least for the sake of future generations).

        I hope all those who reject unity and peace will heed my message and thank the British Government for its efforts. Also ..all should thank Matt and the team making this conference possible.

        Thanks Salman

        Idil (proud British Somali)

        1. Hi IDIL

          You misled the platform also,due to the fact that you were claiming to your previuos posts that you hail Isaq clan. So please be positive and calm. you are from Somaliland-stop spreading the propaganda!.

    2. In a cyber world, anyone can claim anyone. You can’t have to emphasis who you are if you were genuine about your point of view. Is it possible you take your children to Hargeisa rather than your hometown because your hometown is occupied territory or there is war going on to force people what they don’t want? Your childish argument proves the overall point of one family’s drive to divide Somalia.

  21. Dear Sir, Matt Baugh
    This extraordinary conference comes very crucial time, when the leadership of the country is again in their usual in fight, confusion and with no vision to end this senseless war, misery, death and statelessness.
    This conference assesses some of the factors involved in the current luck of instability and doomed peace and reconciliation conferences of the past two decades in Somalia, there is a hope for Somalian people about the outcome of this Conference to be very difference than the past ones.

  22. Dear Matt Baugh:

    I believe any agenda regarding Somali Recociliation Conference Without priortising, first the issue between Somalia vs Somaliland will not result lasting peace in this region of Horn of Africa.

    The true solution will be to advise the authorities from prober Somalia to recognize the SOMALILAND’s independence . This is the inevitable reality in the ground. The overwhelming majority of Somali speaking people in the Horn Africa region are in that opinion. Somalilanders had decided not to be part in Somalia any more. So neither the international community nor the organisers of the forthcoming London conference cannot overlook the wishes and self determinantions of the people of Somaliland. Nintey seven per cent of Somalilanders voted in the referendum in which Britain was observor, more than a decade ago to be independent from Somalia. Indeed, the union in 1960 between the two Somali speaking countries was never ratified. And their brief history of toegherness in the past examplies one of oppersion on the part of the South Somalis on Somalilanders and struggle of latter for independence. I sum up: for this conference to succeed Somalia must recognize Somaliland as independent country.

    1. my name is ibraahin i somalilander i suport my country becouse 1960 somalilanders made unit of somalia but somaliland is not get respect and fair that is way somalilanders anouced somalialnd peapole believe somaliwayn they are not the teality iam request british goverment to suporty somalialnd

  23. Frankly speaking are we ready to end all these conflicts yet?! I don’t think we are ready for it yet. We can talk, dispute, argue, challenge, compete, and discriminate till we die because we have the energy; the ability as well as we all have a roof our head. But truly speaking, let’s be honest and speak from our heart not from the mouth! Thanks for the support, it’s never too late to get such a help! Thanks to Selma, (The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tear hers down).
    Thanks MATT and our UK GOVERNMENT, hosting such conference, weather they think themselves because of the pirates & terrorism, is global issue or to Britain, it’s also concerns us. We know the young men have been manipulated and mislead by the some of business men and the people work for the governments, they’ve been equipped by them and provided weapons and boats in order to hijack other ship, so the people behind them make money out of them, and they don’t even get good paid from the ransom they end up in prison, 10-15 years in New York. Terrorism is not doing any beneficial to our people, whether they are Somali or Muslim, we don’t care. People won’t suffer and won’t experience this terrible feminine if we had peace. We have any sort of Natural resources, farms, food grains, animal and vegetable, rivers, big sea, oils, petroleum products, construction materials, manufactured products and so many other recourses, but the ongoing violence preventing them to utilize it. Why don’t we take advantage of it and let people live in peace. Coming back to my point and as some people commented, at this stage we cannot ignore 4.5 formal, at this stage, and hope not to include the people who already are MP. We can select or elected effective, useful members who can deal with their people (TRIBE), or the regional governments who can take responsibility, we know all these kidnapping and pirates incidents happened under regional governments states, and I hope everyone will be accountable for their action or whatever happened in their territory I hope it’s good starts. As we all know, all the MP’s selected the4.5 formula, based on tribe. However none of them can go back to talk to their tribe/clan they represent, what kind of MP is that? And why is he/she there for? They are not doing any work; we don’t need these people anymore. Personally speaking (am HAWIYE) I cannot go to punt land/Somaliland to represent from other government, at the present time. Who am I to talk about or represent when a native person can deal the situation better? The main problem is HAWIYE now I cannot solve or deal other problem when mine is at hand. I hope people have worm heart and take advantage of this conference and support their people, corruption and money does build our country. I like what Matt said, and I truly hope people will understand this and stop their remote control which we all have power over and given a wrong direction to the unskilled/ illiterate MP who don’t know, who are they getting command from.
    “Together with colleagues in London and in British Missions around the world, we continue to consult widely with our Somali and international partners. These consultations will continue over the next weeks.”
    I am not sure the Somali leader who are coming, but knowing those who are leader they are leader for themselves, we need people who are fair and educated, we had so many conferences,it never went according to plane but this hope it will work as MATT gathering s many thoughts, remarks, idea, comments and hope that will help and gives hints to plan with his missions. I wish you will succeed for your role and will have impact on our nation for ever, in shalaah and good luck MATT

  24. Hello Matt Baugh,

    We appreciate Britain’s involvement in Somalia’s reconciliation process and help seek a lasting solutions for Somalia’s problems. Surely, the key problem in Somalia is the tribal problem – the tribal problem of Somalia is its political problem and it’s more so in the northern part of the country. I would liked not to mention tribal names here, however, omitting this fact will take us away from realistically tackle the fundamental problem that failed Somalia.

    So, the north part of Somalia comprise of the following communities: the secessionist SNM rebel group had been renamed as Somaliland – the Isaaq Somali Tribe. The unionist Awdal State of Somalia – The Samaroon Somali Tribe, the unionist Khaatumo State of Somalia – the Dhulbahante Somali tribe, and the up coming (in the pipeline) unionist Makhir State of Somalia the warsangeli Somali Tribe.

    Obviously, it’s evident beyond doubt that the bogus claim of the one clan secession who inhabit in a small part of North Somalia that the secession is supported by all tribes in the north is completely baseless. Likewise, your characterization of the one clan secessionist enclave of Somaliland as one of areas that enjoy relative peace is regrettable.

    For example, the unionist Dhulbahante Tribe has come together and held a well arranged grand conference in Taleex town from December 26, 2012 and currently in its final stage to be concluded in just few days. The conference has been attended by representatives of all sections of the SSC communities (Sool, Sanaag, and Cayn) – politicians, traditional leaders, civil society, womwn’s groups, youth, religious groups etc..In this conference the SSC communities who inhabit a territory about 50% of the north of Somalia has established their own Regional Administration that supports the Somali unity “Khaatumo State of Somalia” which they announced to be part of the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia.

    Unfortunately, as soon as the Khaatumo State of Somalia is declared, the one clan Isaaq enclave launched an attack on the peaceful SSC town of
    Buhodle where they killed a number of innocent civilians and injured many others. The SSC people has repulsed the secessionist attack on Bohodle on the 15th of january 2012 and pushed the aggressors about 25 kilometers away of Buhodle. Now, the two armies are still not far from each other and a long and destructive tribal war could break at any moment.. In addition, the Isaaq secessionists keep their daily attacks, killings, jailing, hijacking, torturing innocent civilans population in the occupied city of Lasanod. Even though the Isaaq engage in all the above mentioned atrocities in the SSC land, yet the fact of the matter is that the one clan secessionists loosely control a small part of SSC territory, 95% of the SSC territories are under the control of the SSC people. It’s worth mentioning that the Khaatumo State of Somalia has offered the olive peace branch to the secessionist Somaliland tribe to peacefully evacuate the Khaatumo territories and accept a peaceful co-existence and mutual cooperation. However, the sad part is that the secessionists in their all folks of life including their top tradional leaders, politicians, and religious groups are with no exception united on the aggression, killings, and displacements of the population of the unionist Khaatumo State of Somalia.

    I would like also to point out the false democracy claimed by the secessionists who run everything according to tribal lines within their enclave – just one clan. Case in point is the so called tribal political parties are owned and supported by a specific clan. Thus, the results of all so called bogus elections are fixed (planned in advance). Those bogus elections never took place in the Khaatumo State of Somalia territories, because the unionist population there neither recognize them nor accept them..

    Hence the north of Somalia is in crisis mode, wars, and conflict that could progress very quickly to a situation far worse than the south of Somalia, if not intervened by the international community and the aggression of the secessionist camp on the unionist camp of the north stopped and the secessionist Isaaq tribe advised to pull their tribal militia back to their tribal territories, and away from the Khaatumo State of Somalia territory.

    In conclusion, we hope that we contributed to explain the reality on the ground in the northern part of Somalia, and we suggest that all the stakeholders in the north of Somalia be invited to the conference as equal participants to arrive at an inclusive solution that takes care of addressing the root cause of the problem in Somalia, the rest will take care of itself.

    Keenadeed

    1. Sadly, you are trying to find a cinch in the armour. What matters most is the reality on the ground and as long as we are in self- denial, any long term solutions to our chronic problems will remain as far as the end of the Universe. The main scope of conference is to find a lasting solution to the madness and mayhem in the old house of Casa Nostra. The issue of Somaliland is completely out of the agenda.
      As British citizen who almost lives next to Windsor castle, I believe, first things first. We all have to contribute positively to render this golden opportunity, at least partially, successful so as to alleviate the suffering of the Somali people. We, all know that Somalis are today nothing but the laughing stock among the international community. It is natural to go through conflicts and civil strife but has there being any nation which suffered so much and so long as we had (more than two decades). This is not only a civil war but we brought shame to our name through piracy, through terrorism, through Warlordism etc.
      In regard to Somaliland case, they say it takes two to tango. So once Mogadishu comes to its sense, Hargeisa will be ready to extend a cordial hand to their brothers in Mogadishu so as to reach a lasting and tangible settlement. However, knowing where the majority of S/landers stand, the most probable outcome is self-determination (like southern Sudan) not a penny less not a penny more. That is will be the beginning of a new Pan-Somalilandism (different from old drums of Somaliweyn). Please remember today,there are already over one hundred thousand southerners in Somaliland who feel happily at home. Also there are tenth of thousands of Harti people who are proudly living in Hargeisa, Berbera and Burco (Even Abdi Bile Abdi was there last week).
      Personally, I believe, the current civil strife in some parts of Sool, and Togdheer (that is what you & ilk called Khatuumo state and which others are already calling Khatummo-seeg) will either evaporate into thin air (because economically is unviable, its population is very small and alas! Its people are divided and more importantly it is land locked on either side). But even if it prevails for a while, it will eventually has to join either their brethren’s in the Somaliland (Oodee ab ka dhow) or their brothers in south (blood is thicker than water).
      They say distortion of facts amounts to naked lies. While it is true there are some grievances in the eastern parts of eastern regions, the people in Awdale/Selal genuinely believe their destiny is interwoven with Somaliland. They are among the most prosperous S/land regions (Just compare Borama with Gabiley). They are part and parcel (apart from insignificant daylight dreamers who lives overseas). The people of Awdale region have invested too much in S/land and therefore have a very high stake in its very existences. So stopping wasting your time knowing the doors and using meaningless names. Everyone can insanely open a coffee shop in London or Washington or in Tornto with the logos like Hargeisa-land, sahel-land Salel-land Makhir land Darwiish-land and even SCC= land etc.
      I wonder what is await you and ilk in Mogadishu. Your unholy alliance with
      the old pariah or the recent blunderer from Puntland is still fresh in the minds of many morians. First you will be lurred and entrapped and then your fate will follow of many your blood innocent brothers/sisters. Alas! the word Somali unit is the allure. Do my blood brothers/siters in Mogadishu has more hatred and contempt than you and Ilk. T

      All in all, it will be foolish to assume the forthcoming conference will solve our current mayhem overnight. There is already severe drought looming in many parts of the Horn. Al-Shabab and their terroraffiliate are just melting away and proving difficult to defeat them easily (check the NEWS of Mogadishu just what happened last night in Karan district). There are deepening rift among the so called transitional parliament and who knows what will happen in August or when the exit strategy of AMISOM becomes closer than ever? So a comprehensive peace including with the moderate elements of Al-Shabab is still a long way.
      Before I finish, please take a leaf from my good book. Be realistic. There is no point of fan the fire. There is no point of adding an insult to injury. Your brethren’s were a separate entity before voluntarily joining your brethren’s in the south. I have no a grain of doubt that they will again hold up their hands together one day. But not and repeat not in old way. So waste time searching a cinch in their armour.
      Whether parts of Sool and Togdheer regions join Mogadishu, Somaliland’s destiny in the hands of its people. And the overwhelming majority of its laypeople (including a good number hailing from Sool) are no mode to start it all over again. So whether we love or loathe it, Somaliland is here to stay. As independent and sovereign and state, it is ready to accommodate the Future of Pan-Somalilandism.
      Just to give a clue, who is in the backseat of this conference. Of course, His Excellency, the prime minister, David Cameron and his right-hand man, Hon. D. Bellham, the minister for Commonwealth and African Affairs but there is another man. Better you find him out. He was here in Nov/Dec, 2011.
      Regards
      By.
      Ahmed (Somalilander by birth, British citizen by choice, and Pan-Somalilandist by convection)

      1. Dear Ahmed..

        It is really sad to see so many of my fellow Northerners, in particular my brothers & sisters from the Somaliland Clan (Isaq) ..creating unnecessary hate and false messages in this great announcement by the British Government.

        All my Somali people in Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State, Puntland) ….I hope you all understand how important this opportunity explained by Matt is for our country… this is not a time for jokes and tit tats, lets all grow up and see Matt’s message for what it really is rather than what your clan dictators tell you.

        Think of the common good, individualism will not save you nor keep you alive, we are all brothers and sisters… see the differences you hold as your poor imaginations and seek help (counselling) to restore any inner troubling feelings that you may hold for your fellow Somalis (whether it is caused by your clan-dictators or just your ignorance).

        The past is done and dusted, it will not come back to haunt you (I promise)… so please free yourself from hate and seek forgiveness and peace.

        What is good for Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State and Puntland) is also good for Southern Somalia and all other regions of Somalia, hence why this meeting is calling all sections to come to the table.

        …a better Somalia is what we all need not a clan-flag that goes nowhere… so lets join hands and pray for Somalia (at least for the sake of future generations).

        I hope all clan thinking individuals (like Ahmed) who reject unity and peace will heed my message and thank the British Government for its efforts. Also ..all should thank Matt and the team making this conference possible.

        Idil (proud British Somali)

        1. After over 20 years of civil war, it is time all Somalians regardles of their clan affiliation seriously think what unites them rather than things that divides them. Somalians should learn and accept to co exist together while disagreeing.

    2. Sadly, you are trying to find a cinch in the armour. What matters most is the reality on the ground and as long as we are in self- denial, any long term solutions to our chronic problems will remain as far as the end of the Universe. The main scope of conference is to find a lasting solution to the madness and mayhem in the old house of Casa Nostra. The issue of Somaliland is completely out of the agenda.
      As British citizen who almost lives next to Windsor castle, I believe, first things first. We all have to contribute positively to render this golden opportunity, at least partially, successful so as to alleviate the suffering of the Somali people. We, all know that Somalis are today nothing but the laughing stock among the international community. It is natural to go through conflicts and civil strife but has there being any nation which suffered so much and so long as we had (more than two decades). This is not only a civil war but we brought shame to our name through piracy, through terrorism, through Warlordism etc.
      In regard to Somaliland case, they say it takes two to tango. So once Mogadishu comes to its sense, Hargeisa will be ready to extend a cordial hand to their brothers in Mogadishu so as to reach a lasting and tangible settlement. However, knowing where the majority of S/landers stand, the most probable outcome is self-determination (like southern Sudan) not a penny less not a penny more. That is will be the beginning of a new Pan-Somalilandism (different from old drums of Somaliweyn). Please remember there are over one hundred thousand southerners in Somaliland today who feel at home. Also there are tenth of thousands of Harti people who are proudly living in Hargeisa, Berbera and Burco (Even Abdi Bile Abdi was there last week).
      Personally, I believe, the current civil strife in some parts of Sool, and Togdheer (that is what you & ilk called Khatuumo state and which others are already calling Khatummo-seeg) will either evaporate into thin air (because economically is unviable, its population is very small and alas! Its people are divided and more importantly it is land locked on either side). But even if it prevails for a while, it will eventually has to join either their brethren’s in the Somaliland (Oodee ab ka dhow) or their brothers in south (blood is thicker than water).
      They say distortion of facts amounts to naked lies. While it is true there are some grievances in the eastern parts of eastern regions, the people in Awdale/Selal genuinely believe their destiny lies within Somaliland. They are among the most prosperous S/land regions (Just compare Borama with Gabiley). They are part and parcel (apart from insignificant daylight dreamers who lives overseas). The people of Awdale region have invested too much in S/land and therefore have a very high stake in its existences. So forget wasting your time using meaningless names. Everyone can insanely open a coffee shop in London with the logo Hargeisa-land, sahel-land Salel-land Makhir land Darwiish-land and even SCC= land etc.
      All in all, it will be foolish to assume the forthcoming conference will solve our current mayhem overnight. There is already severe drought looming in many parts of the Horn. Al-Shabab and their terroraffiliate are just melting away and proving difficult to defeat them easily (check the NEWS of Mogadishu just what happened last night in Karan district). There are deepening rift among the so called transitional parliament and who knows what will happen in August or when the exit strategy of AMISOM becomes closer than ever? So a comprehensive peace including with the moderate elements of Al-Shabab is still remain elusive and a very hard goal to achieve.

      Before I finish, please take a leaf from my good book. Be realistic. There is no point of fan the fire. There is no point of adding an insult to injury.your brethren’s in north were a separate entity before voluntarily joining your brethren’s in the south. I have no a grain of doubt that they will again hold up their hands together one day. But not and repeat not in old way. So waste no time searching a cinch in their armour.
      Whether or not parts of Sool and Togdheer regions join Mogadishu, Somaliland’s destiny in the hands of its people. And the overwhelming majority of its laypeople (including a good number hailing from Sool) are no mode to start it all over again. So whether we love or loathe it, Somaliland is here to stay. As independent and sovereign state, it is ready to accommodate the Future of Pan-Somalilandism.

      Just to give a clue, who is in the backseat of this conference. Of course, His Excellency, the prime minister, David Cameron and his right-hand man, Hon. D. Bellham, the minister for Commonwealth and African Affairs but there is another man. Better you find him out. He was here in Nov/Dec, 2011.

      Regards

      By.
      Ahmed (Somalilander by birth, British citizen by choice, and Pan-Somalilandist by convection)

      1. Dear Ahmed..

        It is really sad to see so many of my fellow Northerners, in particular my brothers & sisters from the Somaliland Clan (Isaq) ..creating unnecessary hate and false messages in this great announcement by the British Government.

        All my Somali people in Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State, Puntland) ….I hope you all understand how important this opportunity explained by Matt is for our country… this is not a time for jokes and tit tats, lets all grow up and see Matt’s message for what it really is rather than what your clan dictators tell you.

        Think of the common good, individualism will not save you nor keep you alive, we are all brothers and sisters… see the differences you hold as your poor imaginations and seek help (counselling) to restore any inner troubling feelings that you may hold for your fellow Somalis (whether it is caused by your clan-dictators or just your ignorance).

        The past is done and dusted, it will not come back to haunt you (I promise)… so please free yourself from hate and seek forgiveness and peace.

        What is good for Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State and Puntland) is also good for Southern Somalia and all other regions of Somalia, hence why this meeting is calling for all sections to come to the table.

        …a better Somalia is what we all need not a clan-flag that goes nowhere… so lets join hands and pray for Somalia (at least for the sake of future generations).

        I hope all clan thinking individuals (like Ahmed) who reject unity and peace will heed my message and thank the British Government for its efforts. Also ..all should thank Matt and the team making this conference possible.

        Idil (proud British Somali)

      2. HI ahmed,
        Can you please give us a hint how what you have said is going to happened???.
        Of course you have rights to choose if you want to be a country but
        that is not going to be beyond Northwest region of somalia!. that is the area, you belong to, so do not belittle yourself. Other people in previous ‘somaliland protectrate’ such as Awdale State and Khaatumo State have made up their mind, do you know that?. if not, open your eyes and hears.

    3. Sadly, you are trying to find a cinch in the armour. What matters most is the reality on the ground and as long as we are in self- denial, any long term solutions to our chronic problems will remain as far as the end of the Universe. The main scope of conference is to find a lasting solution to the madness and mayhem in the old house of Casa Nostra. The issue of Somaliland is completely out of the agenda.

      As British citizen who almost lives next to Windsor castle, I believe, first things first. We all have to contribute positively to render this golden opportunity, at least partially, successful so as to alleviate the suffering of the Somali people. We, all know that Somalis are today nothing but the laughing stock among the international community. It is natural to go through conflicts and civil strife but has there being any nation which suffered so much and so long as we had (more than two decades). This is not only a civil war but we brought shame to our name through piracy, through terrorism, through Warlordism etc.

      In regard to Somaliland case, they say it takes two to tango. So once Mogadishu comes to its sense, Hargeisa will be ready to extend a cordial hand to their brothers in Mogadishu so as to reach a lasting and tangible settlement. However, knowing where the majority of S/landers stand, the most probable outcome is self-determination (like southern Sudan) not a penny less not a penny more. That is will be the beginning of a new Pan-Somalilandism (different from old drums of Somaliweyn). Please remember there are over one hundred thousand southerners in Somaliland today who feel happily at home. Also there are tenth of thousands of Harti people who are proudly living in Hargeisa, Berbera and Burco (Even Abdi Bile Abdi was there last week).

      Personally, I believe, the current civil strife in some parts of Sool, and Togdheer (that is what you & ilk called Khatuumo state and which others are already calling Khatummo-seeg) will either evaporate into thin air (because economically is unviable, its population is very small and alas! Its people are divided and more importantly it is land locked on either side). But even if it prevails for a while, it will eventually has to join either their brethren’s in the Somaliland (Oodee ab ka dhow) or their brothers in south (blood is thicker than water).

      They say distortion of facts amounts to naked lies. While it is true there are some grievances in the eastern parts of eastern regions, the people in Awdale/Selal genuinely believe their destiny lies within Somaliland. They are among the most prosperous S/land regions (Just compare Borama with Gabiley). They are part and parcel (apart from insignificant daylight dreamers who lives overseas). The people of Awdale region have invested too much in S/land and therefore have a very high stake in its very existences. So waste no time using meaningless names. Everyone can insanely open a coffee shop in London with the logo Hargeisa-land, sahel-land Salel-land Makhir land Darwiish-land and even SCC= land etc.

      All in all, it will be foolish to assume the forthcoming conference will solve our current mayhem overnight. There is already severe drought looming in many parts of the Horn. Al-Shabab and their terroraffiliate are just melting away and proving difficult to defeat them easily (check the NEWS of Mogadishu just what happened last night in Karan district). There are deepening rift among the so called transitional parliament and who knows what will happen in August or when the exit strategy of AMISOM becomes closer than ever? So a comprehensive peace including with the moderate elements of Al-Shabab is still a long way.
      Before I finish, please take a leaf from my good book. Be realistic. There is no point of fan the fire. There is no point of adding an insult to injury. Your brethren’s were a separate entity before voluntarily joining your brethren’s in the south. I have no a grain of doubt that they will again hold up their hands together one day. But not and repeat not in old way. So waste time searching a cinch in their armour.

      Whether parts of Sool and Togdheer regions join Mogadishu, Somaliland’s destiny in the hands of its people. And the overwhelming majority of its laypeople (including a good number hailing from Sool) are no mode to start it all over again. So whether we love or loathe it, Somaliland is here to stay. As independent and sovereign and state, it is ready to accommodate the Future of Pan-Somalilandism.

      Just to give a clue, who is in the backseat of this conference. Of course, His Excellency, the prime minister, David Cameron and his right-hand man, Hon. D. Bellham, the minister for Commonwealth and African Affairs but there is another man. Better you find him out. He was here in Nov/Dec, 2011.

      Regards

      By.
      Ahmed (Somalilander by birth, British citizen by choice, and Pan-Somalilandist by convection)

      1. Dear Ahmed..

        It is really sad to see so many of my fellow Northerners, in particular my brothers & sisters from the Somaliland Clan (Isaq) ..creating unnecessary hate and false messages in this great announcement by the British Government.

        All my Somali people in Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State, Puntland) ….I hope you all understand how important this opportunity explained by Matt is for our country… this is not a time for jokes and tit tats, lets all grow up and see Matt’s message for what it really is rather than what your clan dictators tell you.

        Think of the common good, individualism will not save you nor keep you alive, we are all brothers and sisters… see the differences you hold as your poor imaginations and seek help (counselling) to restore any inner troubling feelings that you may hold for your fellow Somalis (whether it is caused by your clan-dictators or just your ignorance).

        The past is done and dusted, it will not come back to haunt you (I promise)… so please free yourself from hate and seek forgiveness and peace.

        What is good for Northern Somalia (Awdal State, Somaliland, Khaatumo State and Puntland) is also good for Southern Somalia all other regions of Somalia, hence why this meeting is calling all sections to come to the table.

        …a better Somalia is what we all need not a clan-flag that goes nowhere… so lets join hands and pray for Somalia (at least for the sake of future generations).

        I hope all clan thinking individuals (like Ahmed) who reject unity and peace will heed my message and thank the British Government for its efforts. Also ..all should thank Matt and the team making this conference possible.

        Idil (proud British Somali)

      2. You can claim all you want and you can seem as objective as secessionist can look, but there is one thing you can’t change. And that is the fact that Somaliland defined by colonial borders is dead. You will never convince people who were never part of your project to be part of it now. You can’t use force to make them accept what they rejected 20+ years of illness in Somali proper. The sooner you understand the limitation of your misguided drive the better for Somalia. If in fact you think one clan can be its own government, I have no objection by all means go and try. But, Somalia and its borders are known you can either build bridges to nowhere or work for the common goal. It’s your call.

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About Matt Baugh

Matt is married to Caroline, a GP from South London
specialising in pre-hospital care and tropical medicine. They have 3
small children. Matt has been working on Somalia since May 2010, when he was appointed the UK’s Senior Representative and Head of the UK’s
Somalia Office. On 2 February 2012 he was accredited as the first
British Ambassador to Somalia for 21 years. Since taking up his Somalia
appointment, he has been able to travel to Mogadishu, Hargeisa and
Garowe, and has been deeply touched by the warmth of the welcome he has received, but also the scale of the challenges that Somali people face
every day.
Matt is a career civil servant and is currently on secondment to the
Foreign Office from the UK Department for International Development. Now 37, he has spent much of his career to date dealing with conflict,
security and humanitarian issues. Since 1999 he has worked in Iraq,
Sudan, Afghanistan and the Balkans, as well as a number of major relief
operations and protracted emergencies. He also helped to set up and lead
the UK’s Post Conflict Reconstruction Unit, now the UK Stabilisation
Unit. Matt is a graduate of the UK Joint Services Command and Staff
College’s Higher Command and Staff Course (2010) and was previously
Principal Private Secretary to the Secretary of State for International
Development (2008-9).
Away from work, Matt is an avid England rugby fan (although he
refuses to admit his own playing days are long over). He is also a keen
mountaineer and skier and, together with Caroline, was part of a team
that raced to the Magnetic North Pole in 2005. These days he is more
likely to be found teaching his children how to swim and build
sandcastles.

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